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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Jason
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      @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

      Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

      As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:

        @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

        Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

        As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.

        Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

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        • DanpD
          Danp @Jason
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          @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

          Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

          @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

          Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

          Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @Danp
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            @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

            @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

            Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

            @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

            Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

            Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

            Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Danp
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              @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

              @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

              Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

              @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

              Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

              Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

              It's definitely not without user interaction. Agents are the only thing without user interaction. Otherwise, it would just be hacking.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                Which would really just make it an installed agent.

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                  Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                  @JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:

                  @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                  Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                  As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.

                  Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                  This is not the only way

                  Connect on lan is agentless it uses a temp EXE running using windows remote registry service. No agent pre-installed is needed

                  Youtube Video

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                    Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                    @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                    @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                    @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                    Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                    @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                    Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                    Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                    Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                    Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                    Not pre-installed no it isn't.

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                      Jason Banned @Danp
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                      @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                      @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                      Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                      @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                      Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                      Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                      It's not the way Scott is saying that's for remote user support when unattended hasn't been setup. Connect on Lan is different.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                        @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                        @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                        @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                        Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                        @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                        Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                        Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                        Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                        Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                        Not if the agent isn't installed. Like how teamviewer does it. You can download an exe that's run ad hoc and stops afterwards. It's not preinstalled, just run time.

                        So the script could run the .exe from somewhere else locally on demand and just shut off when it's done.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Jason
                          last edited by

                          @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                          @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                          @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                          @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                          Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                          @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                          Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                          Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                          Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                          Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                          Not pre-installed no it isn't.

                          If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                            @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                            @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                            @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                            @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                            Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                            @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                            Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                            Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                            Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                            Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                            Not if the agent isn't installed. Like how teamviewer does it. You can download an exe that's run ad hoc and stops afterwards. It's not preinstalled, just run time.

                            So the script could run the .exe from somewhere else locally on demand and just shut off when it's done.

                            That exe is an agent, though.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                              @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                              @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                              @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                              @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                              Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                              @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                              Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                              Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                              Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                              Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                              Not pre-installed no it isn't.

                              If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.

                              It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                                @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                                Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                                Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                                Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                                Not pre-installed no it isn't.

                                If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.

                                It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.

                                That's an agent. Just not an always on one.

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                                  Jason Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                  @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                  @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                  @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                  Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                  Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                                  Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                                  Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                                  Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                                  Not pre-installed no it isn't.

                                  If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.

                                  No it's not. It's only running while you access it. And no agent is installed before you click connect.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                    @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                    @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                    @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                    Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                    Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                                    Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                                    Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                                    Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                                    Not pre-installed no it isn't.

                                    If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.

                                    It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.

                                    That's an agent. Just not an always on one.

                                    Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                                    You said that ^ it's not an installed agent. Dan asked how it would be done without user interaction.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                      @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      @Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                      Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.

                                      Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?

                                      Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.

                                      Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                                      Not pre-installed no it isn't.

                                      If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.

                                      It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.

                                      That's an agent. Just not an always on one.

                                      Which would really just make it an installed agent.

                                      You said that ^ it's not an installed agent. Dan asked how it would be done without user interaction.

                                      basically it's an agent OR it requires user interaction

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                                        Jason Banned @JaredBusch
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                                        @JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                        @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                        Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                                        As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.

                                        I believe LMI says it uses the windows remote registry service to temporarily run for your session.

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                                          Alex Sage @Jason
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                                          @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                          @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                          Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                                          As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.

                                          I believe LMI says it uses the windows remote registry service to temporarily run for your session.

                                          Which is similar to how ScreenConnect does it...

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                                            Jason Banned @Alex Sage
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                                            @aaronstuder said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                            @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                            @Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:

                                            Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.

                                            As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.

                                            I believe LMI says it uses the windows remote registry service to temporarily run for your session.

                                            Which is similar to how ScreenConnect does it...

                                            Um no. We demoed screen connect even they said it can't. The agent had to be preinstalled and Always running. You create the package and deploy it with a GPO.

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