Alternatives to LMI
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LMI uses an agent, so why can you use the SC agent on the local network?
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@aaronstuder said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason that's the same thing ScreenConnect does!
No it doesn't, screen connect requires the agent to be deployed. You can not just enter a host name on the network and connect without a preinstalled agent
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@Jason what does that?
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I'm pretty sure Bomgar is agentless too, but expensive.
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Sounds like you're sticking with LMI...
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@aaronstuder said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason what does that?
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
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@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.
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@JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
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@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
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@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
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@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
It's definitely not without user interaction. Agents are the only thing without user interaction. Otherwise, it would just be hacking.
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@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@JaredBusch said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
As someone that does not use LMI, how does it do that? I have no idea and I want to know. Is it using some windows protocol? Pushing an angent out on demand to execute and then destroy itself? I can see many ways it can do it, just want to know what it does.
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
This is not the only way
Connect on lan is agentless it uses a temp EXE running using windows remote registry service. No agent pre-installed is needed
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
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@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
It's not the way Scott is saying that's for remote user support when unattended hasn't been setup. Connect on Lan is different.
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not if the agent isn't installed. Like how teamviewer does it. You can download an exe that's run ad hoc and stops afterwards. It's not preinstalled, just run time.
So the script could run the .exe from somewhere else locally on demand and just shut off when it's done.
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@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.
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@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not if the agent isn't installed. Like how teamviewer does it. You can download an exe that's run ad hoc and stops afterwards. It's not preinstalled, just run time.
So the script could run the .exe from somewhere else locally on demand and just shut off when it's done.
That exe is an agent, though.
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@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.
It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.
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@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
@stacksofplates said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Danp said in Alternatives to LMI:
@Jason said in Alternatives to LMI:
Log Me in Does.. No agent has to be preinstalled for connecting on the local network without user interaction.
@scottalanmiller said in Alternatives to LMI:
Yes, the end user gets a link to download an on demand agent. It disappears as soon as you are done using it. This is LMI Rescue, not the normal LMI.
Maybe I'm being dense (it's been a long day!)., but how is that "without user interaction"?
Just a stupid way to do it would be run a script remotely to run the temp agent if both are on the same domain.
Which would really just make it an installed agent.
Not pre-installed no it isn't.
If you script it to always be there and running, it really is.
It's not always there and running. It's just an exe sitting somewhere. I run the script, it launches the exe. When I close the session that process ends. It's only running while you're connected.
That's an agent. Just not an always on one.
