SOHO and SMB Cloud Storage Recommendations
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@BRRABill said:
BTW, it looks like at least Dropbox for Business has some nice versioning features and things like that.
I will have to take a look at all the options presented.
That's copied from SharePoint. We've had that in the SharePoint world for way more than a decade. That people have been working without versioning for documents seem like they are in the dark ages to me. That's been a basic feature for so long that I start to forget that people might not have it anymore. @ntg moved to that in 2003.
Also, in later revisions, you know that Office 365 and/or SharePoint will let you not just host and version files but work on them simultaneously while seeing each other working and collaborating inside of the application.
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Is O365 storage separate than OneDrive for Business?
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@BRRABill said:
Is O365 storage separate than OneDrive for Business?
O365 is purely the licensing. O365 offers the Sharepoint and its associated ODfB products hosted. You can also get the same products and host yourself. It is just Microsoft hosting their top end products on your behalf.
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So it would be a close/even/ competitor to DropBox for Business?
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Just to throw another one in, Box.com does versioning and has a decent amount of add on apps.
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@BRRABill said:
So it would be a close/even/ competitor to DropBox for Business?
They are very similar. ODfB integrates with the whole O365 stack, though, so if you have that nothing will compare.
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@scottalanmiller said:
They are very similar. ODfB integrates with the whole O365 stack, though, so if you have that nothing will compare.
Yeah as you know, as much as I complain I do like Microsoft, and almost everyone else I deal with also does.
So I'll have to look into ODfB.
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The Office 365 suite is really nice because of the high degree of integration. Google Apps has just as good integration but lacks the broad set of applications. It's having both the integration as well as the local MS Office suite, the really large set of MS Office components and the mix of Exchange and SharePoint that brings it all together.
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As nice as O365 is for us it just doesn't make financial sense with O365 E3 . We are looking at Exchange Online Plan 2 though.
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It's worth pointing out that Office integrates really nicely with Google Drive via the Drive plug-in for Microsoft Office, available to download from Google. I've tested it and it works pretty well.
From a financial point of view, it may not make sense to pay for an O365 subscription AND a Google Drive subscription. You'd probably have to really prefer Drive to want use Office but not not use ODfB.
On the other hand, smaller companies may prefer to buy Office retail licences and use Drive, which would be a cost effective solution. If I was a SOHO then that is what I'd do.
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Interesting, did not know that MS Office offered that. Do you know if they offer similar for DropBox or other services?
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Google provide the plug-in, not Microsoft. Installing it also add a "Google Drive" tab to the ribbon in Word and Excel.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
On the other hand, smaller companies may prefer to buy Office retail licences and use Drive, which would be a cost effective solution. If I was a SOHO then that is what I'd do.
SMBs get Office 365 with email & office pretty cheap. Enterprise is where we draw the short stick the pricing of it rarely makes since. It's about a $9 dollar difference in price for those with less than 300 users compare to use with the higher prices for enterprise.
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Yeah, but you get Access thrown in
At 300+ users can't you negotiate with them on price? Especially if you're considering Google instead. I assumed enterprises always ended up doing deals rather than paying the advertised rate. Is that not the case?
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Yeah, but you get Access thrown in
At 300+ users can't you negotiate with them on price? Especially if you're considering Google instead. I assumed enterprises always ended up doing deals rather than paying the advertised rate. Is that not the case?
With an EA you get slightly better price than the list of O365 but it's not much better. Still buying seats of office, CALs, and Exchange online is cheaper for us then Office 365 plan E3. We aren't considering google.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Yeah, but you get Access thrown in
Exactly. This is why we buy office standard not Pro plus. Even if we had Access we would not have it installed on users computers.
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@Jason said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Yeah, but you get Access thrown in
At 300+ users can't you negotiate with them on price? Especially if you're considering Google instead. I assumed enterprises always ended up doing deals rather than paying the advertised rate. Is that not the case?
With an EA you get slightly better price than the list of O365 but it's not much better. Still buying seats of office, CALs, and Exchange online is cheaper for us then Office 365 plan E3. We aren't considering google.
You're also not considering the other pieces that O365 bring to the table.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
Yeah, but you get Access thrown in
How much do you have to pay to get them to remove it is the question
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@Carnival-Boy said:
At 300+ users can't you negotiate with them on price? Especially if you're considering Google instead. I assumed enterprises always ended up doing deals rather than paying the advertised rate. Is that not the case?
300 is so small, that's nowhere near the point where you have leverage to talk special pricing. Enterprises can do deals, 300 is on the small end of the SMB. Enterprises do, of course, always get custom deals. It's called EA, Enterprise Agreement. At 300 it isn't worth the cost of the negotiations to either side, nor would MS entertain it. They have stock agreements for companies bigger than that.
