Fitness and Weightloss

scottalanmiller

I just found out this topic, omg why I'm so late
I'm currently working on shredding some weight, I believe it will make me run faster.

LOL, because of all people YOU don't need to lose weight!

Joy

@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@joy said in Fitness and Weightloss:

I just found out this topic, omg why I'm so late
I'm currently working on shredding some weight, I believe it will make me run faster.

LOL, because of all people YOU don't need to lose weight!

It's for running purposes only. I find it easier to run faster with lighter weight.

scottalanmiller

@joy said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@joy said in Fitness and Weightloss:

I just found out this topic, omg why I'm so late
I'm currently working on shredding some weight, I believe it will make me run faster.

LOL, because of all people YOU don't need to lose weight!

It's for running purposes only. I find it easier to run faster with lighter weight.

I find it easier to be heavier and not run at all

Joy

@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@joy said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@scottalanmiller said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@joy said in Fitness and Weightloss:

I just found out this topic, omg why I'm so late
I'm currently working on shredding some weight, I believe it will make me run faster.

LOL, because of all people YOU don't need to lose weight!

It's for running purposes only. I find it easier to run faster with lighter weight.

I find it easier to be heavier and not run at all

Hmmm, I agree and drinking beer is easier than running at all.

bbigford

@penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

6'5" and was 215 at Thanksgiving. After TG dinner I said I was going on a diet to get back down to the 185 I'm comfortable with. I got down to 175 by New Years. Just takes proper planning of meals to automate your groove; along with exercise, and no cheating.

6'5" tall and you are complaining about being 215? You must have a small build for someone that tall. I was gifted with a linebacker type of build. I am 6'4" tall and I was 313 lbs. Most people tell me, you couldn't be that heavy, but I was. I have a long tall torso so hiding my true weight was easy, relatively normal length legs, 32" inseam on my pants.

I do have a slender build.

bbigford

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

6'5" and was 215 at Thanksgiving. After TG dinner I said I was going on a diet to get back down to the 185 I'm comfortable with. I got down to 175 by New Years. Just takes proper planning of meals to automate your groove; along with exercise, and no cheating.

6'5" tall and you are complaining about being 215? You must have a small build for someone that tall. I was gifted with a linebacker type of build. I am 6'4" tall and I was 313 lbs. Most people tell me, you couldn't be that heavy, but I was. I have a long tall torso so hiding my true weight was easy, relatively normal length legs, 32" inseam on my pants.

Hmm... yeah i read that again. 6'5" wanting to get down to 175 lbs? That's less than I am usualy, and I'm 5'10"ish. I thought I was pretty skinny... 6'5" and 215 seems like it'd be in the upper end of the healthy range... without looking at any charts off the top of my head.

230 is a good target weight, but I just never had any success actually putting on some solid muscle, so I eventually gave up on all the weight gaining programs and weight lifting.

Obsolesce

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

6'5" and was 215 at Thanksgiving. After TG dinner I said I was going on a diet to get back down to the 185 I'm comfortable with. I got down to 175 by New Years. Just takes proper planning of meals to automate your groove; along with exercise, and no cheating.

6'5" tall and you are complaining about being 215? You must have a small build for someone that tall. I was gifted with a linebacker type of build. I am 6'4" tall and I was 313 lbs. Most people tell me, you couldn't be that heavy, but I was. I have a long tall torso so hiding my true weight was easy, relatively normal length legs, 32" inseam on my pants.

Hmm... yeah i read that again. 6'5" wanting to get down to 175 lbs? That's less than I am usualy, and I'm 5'10"ish. I thought I was pretty skinny... 6'5" and 215 seems like it'd be in the upper end of the healthy range... without looking at any charts off the top of my head.

230 is a good target weight, but I just never had any success actually putting on some solid muscle, so I eventually gave up on all the weight gaining programs and weight lifting.

Muscle building is a very slow process for everyone.... after the newbie gains anyway. If you are new or coming back to weight lifting and you stick to an intense workout routine for 4 or so months (as in great sleep, great eating, great workouts), you will see very noticeable muscle gains. But after the initial gains, you can't really expect to gain more than a kilo or two of solid muscle weight PER YEAR. It's a very slow process, and is something best done for the health benefits rather than trying to look big asap.

The people you see walking around with big muscles have been doing it for years consistently, or have done (or are doing) steroids. Plain and simple. In about 10 years of consistent muscle workouts, as in 3-4 times a week, an hour each time, no more than a week's rest every couple months.

For women it's a bit different. Many DON'T lift weights for fear of getting too much muscle. This is a myth. Women simply lack the testosterone required to "bulk up and look like a man" if you know what I mean. It's literally impossible (it's simple science), and those women who have, were taking steroids.

A good weight lifting routine (strength training + cardio) is always better than cardio alone. It burns more calories, promotes better health, and does a lot more for your body... such as shapign and toning, as well as cardiovascular benefits.... where cardio/running may only hurt you in the long run (like damages your knees... doesn't promote muscle growth or keep as much bone density) when compared to weight lifting.

bbigford

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

6'5" and was 215 at Thanksgiving. After TG dinner I said I was going on a diet to get back down to the 185 I'm comfortable with. I got down to 175 by New Years. Just takes proper planning of meals to automate your groove; along with exercise, and no cheating.

6'5" tall and you are complaining about being 215? You must have a small build for someone that tall. I was gifted with a linebacker type of build. I am 6'4" tall and I was 313 lbs. Most people tell me, you couldn't be that heavy, but I was. I have a long tall torso so hiding my true weight was easy, relatively normal length legs, 32" inseam on my pants.

Hmm... yeah i read that again. 6'5" wanting to get down to 175 lbs? That's less than I am usualy, and I'm 5'10"ish. I thought I was pretty skinny... 6'5" and 215 seems like it'd be in the upper end of the healthy range... without looking at any charts off the top of my head.

230 is a good target weight, but I just never had any success actually putting on some solid muscle, so I eventually gave up on all the weight gaining programs and weight lifting.

Muscle building is a very slow process for everyone.... after the newbie gains anyway. If you are new or coming back to weight lifting and you stick to an intense workout routine for 4 or so months (as in great sleep, great eating, great workouts), you will see very noticeable muscle gains. But after the initial gains, you can't really expect to gain more than a kilo or two of solid muscle weight PER YEAR. It's a very slow process, and is something best done for the health benefits rather than trying to look big asap.

The people you see walking around with big muscles have been doing it for years consistently, or have done (or are doing) steroids. Plain and simple. In about 10 years of consistent muscle workouts, as in 3-4 times a week, an hour each time, no more than a week's rest every couple months.

For women it's a bit different. Many DON'T lift weights for fear of getting too much muscle. This is a myth. Women simply lack the testosterone required to "bulk up and look like a man" if you know what I mean. It's literally impossible (it's simple science), and those women who have, were taking steroids.

A good weight lifting routine is always better than cardio. It burns more calories, promotes better health, and does a lot more for your body... such as shapign and toning, as well as cardiovascular benefits.... where cardio/running may only hurt you in the long run (like damages your knees... doesn't promote muscle growth or keep as much bone density) when compared to weight lifting.

I tried weight gain while I was training for the US Navy, before I blew out my knee in a swim and they didn't want me going in after that. It was over a year of training between highschool and delayed-entry that got me toned, but no significant weight.

But I do comprehend what you are saying with long term and agree that there is a tipping point. There are very many people who are tall and slender, continue to work at weight gain, and it seems that they explode almost overnight within a month or so with gains. Maybe my body couldn't hold out long enough for the gains, or I just didn't put in enough.

bbigford

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

6'5" and was 215 at Thanksgiving. After TG dinner I said I was going on a diet to get back down to the 185 I'm comfortable with. I got down to 175 by New Years. Just takes proper planning of meals to automate your groove; along with exercise, and no cheating.

6'5" tall and you are complaining about being 215? You must have a small build for someone that tall. I was gifted with a linebacker type of build. I am 6'4" tall and I was 313 lbs. Most people tell me, you couldn't be that heavy, but I was. I have a long tall torso so hiding my true weight was easy, relatively normal length legs, 32" inseam on my pants.

Hmm... yeah i read that again. 6'5" wanting to get down to 175 lbs? That's less than I am usualy, and I'm 5'10"ish. I thought I was pretty skinny... 6'5" and 215 seems like it'd be in the upper end of the healthy range... without looking at any charts off the top of my head.

230 is a good target weight, but I just never had any success actually putting on some solid muscle, so I eventually gave up on all the weight gaining programs and weight lifting.

Muscle building is a very slow process for everyone.... after the newbie gains anyway. If you are new or coming back to weight lifting and you stick to an intense workout routine for 4 or so months (as in great sleep, great eating, great workouts), you will see very noticeable muscle gains. But after the initial gains, you can't really expect to gain more than a kilo or two of solid muscle weight PER YEAR. It's a very slow process, and is something best done for the health benefits rather than trying to look big asap.

The people you see walking around with big muscles have been doing it for years consistently, or have done (or are doing) steroids. Plain and simple. In about 10 years of consistent muscle workouts, as in 3-4 times a week, an hour each time, no more than a week's rest every couple months.

For women it's a bit different. Many DON'T lift weights for fear of getting too much muscle. This is a myth. Women simply lack the testosterone required to "bulk up and look like a man" if you know what I mean. It's literally impossible (it's simple science), and those women who have, were taking steroids.

A good weight lifting routine is always better than cardio. It burns more calories, promotes better health, and does a lot more for your body... such as shapign and toning

This part I don't agree with. Strong (not large, but strong; they are not the same) arm/leg/chest/back muscles can spare me from a heart attack? Cardio and core strength promotes hip dyplasia deterrence, strong back muscles, blood flow, and heart health. I can't agree that lifting weights is better than cardio for a human body long term life, but I would agree that it has benefits for other reasons.

Obsolesce

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

6'5" and was 215 at Thanksgiving. After TG dinner I said I was going on a diet to get back down to the 185 I'm comfortable with. I got down to 175 by New Years. Just takes proper planning of meals to automate your groove; along with exercise, and no cheating.

6'5" tall and you are complaining about being 215? You must have a small build for someone that tall. I was gifted with a linebacker type of build. I am 6'4" tall and I was 313 lbs. Most people tell me, you couldn't be that heavy, but I was. I have a long tall torso so hiding my true weight was easy, relatively normal length legs, 32" inseam on my pants.

Hmm... yeah i read that again. 6'5" wanting to get down to 175 lbs? That's less than I am usualy, and I'm 5'10"ish. I thought I was pretty skinny... 6'5" and 215 seems like it'd be in the upper end of the healthy range... without looking at any charts off the top of my head.

230 is a good target weight, but I just never had any success actually putting on some solid muscle, so I eventually gave up on all the weight gaining programs and weight lifting.

Muscle building is a very slow process for everyone.... after the newbie gains anyway. If you are new or coming back to weight lifting and you stick to an intense workout routine for 4 or so months (as in great sleep, great eating, great workouts), you will see very noticeable muscle gains. But after the initial gains, you can't really expect to gain more than a kilo or two of solid muscle weight PER YEAR. It's a very slow process, and is something best done for the health benefits rather than trying to look big asap.

The people you see walking around with big muscles have been doing it for years consistently, or have done (or are doing) steroids. Plain and simple. In about 10 years of consistent muscle workouts, as in 3-4 times a week, an hour each time, no more than a week's rest every couple months.

For women it's a bit different. Many DON'T lift weights for fear of getting too much muscle. This is a myth. Women simply lack the testosterone required to "bulk up and look like a man" if you know what I mean. It's literally impossible (it's simple science), and those women who have, were taking steroids.

A good weight lifting routine is always better than cardio. It burns more calories, promotes better health, and does a lot more for your body... such as shapign and toning

This part I don't agree with. Strong (not large, but strong; they are not the same) arm/leg/chest/back muscles can spare me from a heart attack? Cardio and core strength promotes hip dyplasia deterrence, strong back muscles, blood flow, and heart health. I can't agree that lifting weights is better than cardio for a human body long term life, but I would agree that it has benefits for other reasons.

This is the myth, and what I started out thinking as well. I'll link the science and studies tomorrow when I have time. Long story short, that there is a right way to lift, and doing so does for you everything you think straight cardio does.

bbigford

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

6'5" and was 215 at Thanksgiving. After TG dinner I said I was going on a diet to get back down to the 185 I'm comfortable with. I got down to 175 by New Years. Just takes proper planning of meals to automate your groove; along with exercise, and no cheating.

6'5" tall and you are complaining about being 215? You must have a small build for someone that tall. I was gifted with a linebacker type of build. I am 6'4" tall and I was 313 lbs. Most people tell me, you couldn't be that heavy, but I was. I have a long tall torso so hiding my true weight was easy, relatively normal length legs, 32" inseam on my pants.

Hmm... yeah i read that again. 6'5" wanting to get down to 175 lbs? That's less than I am usualy, and I'm 5'10"ish. I thought I was pretty skinny... 6'5" and 215 seems like it'd be in the upper end of the healthy range... without looking at any charts off the top of my head.

230 is a good target weight, but I just never had any success actually putting on some solid muscle, so I eventually gave up on all the weight gaining programs and weight lifting.

Muscle building is a very slow process for everyone.... after the newbie gains anyway. If you are new or coming back to weight lifting and you stick to an intense workout routine for 4 or so months (as in great sleep, great eating, great workouts), you will see very noticeable muscle gains. But after the initial gains, you can't really expect to gain more than a kilo or two of solid muscle weight PER YEAR. It's a very slow process, and is something best done for the health benefits rather than trying to look big asap.

The people you see walking around with big muscles have been doing it for years consistently, or have done (or are doing) steroids. Plain and simple. In about 10 years of consistent muscle workouts, as in 3-4 times a week, an hour each time, no more than a week's rest every couple months.

For women it's a bit different. Many DON'T lift weights for fear of getting too much muscle. This is a myth. Women simply lack the testosterone required to "bulk up and look like a man" if you know what I mean. It's literally impossible (it's simple science), and those women who have, were taking steroids.

A good weight lifting routine is always better than cardio. It burns more calories, promotes better health, and does a lot more for your body... such as shapign and toning

This part I don't agree with. Strong (not large, but strong; they are not the same) arm/leg/chest/back muscles can spare me from a heart attack? Cardio and core strength promotes hip dyplasia deterrence, strong back muscles, blood flow, and heart health. I can't agree that lifting weights is better than cardio for a human body long term life, but I would agree that it has benefits for other reasons.

This is the myth, and what I started out thinking as well. I'll link the science and studies tomorrow when I have time. Long story short, that there is a right way to lift, and doing so does for you everything you think straight cardio does.

Extreme heavy lifters, with proper breathing exercises, can run 12 miles on an average day? Outside of the weight they carry, their breathing is mild at the end of a 12 mile run with no slow down or break on mild inclind/decline at a relative pace?

This is, of course, not focusing on the impact on their knees/back based on their body composition, and what that might look like long term. Just strictly focusing on cardio vs. lifting and how those might intertwine.

Dashrender

Scale said 199.8 this morning.. first time under 200 lbs in years.. awesome!

Obsolesce

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

6'5" and was 215 at Thanksgiving. After TG dinner I said I was going on a diet to get back down to the 185 I'm comfortable with. I got down to 175 by New Years. Just takes proper planning of meals to automate your groove; along with exercise, and no cheating.

6'5" tall and you are complaining about being 215? You must have a small build for someone that tall. I was gifted with a linebacker type of build. I am 6'4" tall and I was 313 lbs. Most people tell me, you couldn't be that heavy, but I was. I have a long tall torso so hiding my true weight was easy, relatively normal length legs, 32" inseam on my pants.

Hmm... yeah i read that again. 6'5" wanting to get down to 175 lbs? That's less than I am usualy, and I'm 5'10"ish. I thought I was pretty skinny... 6'5" and 215 seems like it'd be in the upper end of the healthy range... without looking at any charts off the top of my head.

230 is a good target weight, but I just never had any success actually putting on some solid muscle, so I eventually gave up on all the weight gaining programs and weight lifting.

Muscle building is a very slow process for everyone.... after the newbie gains anyway. If you are new or coming back to weight lifting and you stick to an intense workout routine for 4 or so months (as in great sleep, great eating, great workouts), you will see very noticeable muscle gains. But after the initial gains, you can't really expect to gain more than a kilo or two of solid muscle weight PER YEAR. It's a very slow process, and is something best done for the health benefits rather than trying to look big asap.

The people you see walking around with big muscles have been doing it for years consistently, or have done (or are doing) steroids. Plain and simple. In about 10 years of consistent muscle workouts, as in 3-4 times a week, an hour each time, no more than a week's rest every couple months.

For women it's a bit different. Many DON'T lift weights for fear of getting too much muscle. This is a myth. Women simply lack the testosterone required to "bulk up and look like a man" if you know what I mean. It's literally impossible (it's simple science), and those women who have, were taking steroids.

A good weight lifting routine is always better than cardio. It burns more calories, promotes better health, and does a lot more for your body... such as shapign and toning

This part I don't agree with. Strong (not large, but strong; they are not the same) arm/leg/chest/back muscles can spare me from a heart attack? Cardio and core strength promotes hip dyplasia deterrence, strong back muscles, blood flow, and heart health. I can't agree that lifting weights is better than cardio for a human body long term life, but I would agree that it has benefits for other reasons.

This is the myth, and what I started out thinking as well. I'll link the science and studies tomorrow when I have time. Long story short, that there is a right way to lift, and doing so does for you everything you think straight cardio does.

Extreme heavy lifters, with proper breathing exercises, can run 12 miles on an average day? Outside of the weight they carry, their breathing is mild at the end of a 12 mile run with no slow down or break on mild inclind/decline at a relative pace?

This is, of course, not focusing on the impact on their knees/back based on their body composition, and what that might look like long term. Just strictly focusing on cardio vs. lifting and how those might intertwine.

Extremes on either side are terrible... why bring those into the mix?

Proper cardio vs proper weight lifting is what one aspect was about, not extremes.

What I always recommend is that the best thing to do is a full strength training workout, followed by 5-15 minutes of medium to high intensity cardio.

This is what I've put on my blog a while ago and have seen gives best results, with seeing science and studies backing it...

The main takeaway here is that doing just one or the other, I would recommend strength training due to it having more benefits and preventing many old age problems.

bbigford

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@penguinwrangler said in Fitness and Weightloss:

@bbigford said in Fitness and Weightloss:

6'5" and was 215 at Thanksgiving. After TG dinner I said I was going on a diet to get back down to the 185 I'm comfortable with. I got down to 175 by New Years. Just takes proper planning of meals to automate your groove; along with exercise, and no cheating.

6'5" tall and you are complaining about being 215? You must have a small build for someone that tall. I was gifted with a linebacker type of build. I am 6'4" tall and I was 313 lbs. Most people tell me, you couldn't be that heavy, but I was. I have a long tall torso so hiding my true weight was easy, relatively normal length legs, 32" inseam on my pants.

Hmm... yeah i read that again. 6'5" wanting to get down to 175 lbs? That's less than I am usualy, and I'm 5'10"ish. I thought I was pretty skinny... 6'5" and 215 seems like it'd be in the upper end of the healthy range... without looking at any charts off the top of my head.

230 is a good target weight, but I just never had any success actually putting on some solid muscle, so I eventually gave up on all the weight gaining programs and weight lifting.

Muscle building is a very slow process for everyone.... after the newbie gains anyway. If you are new or coming back to weight lifting and you stick to an intense workout routine for 4 or so months (as in great sleep, great eating, great workouts), you will see very noticeable muscle gains. But after the initial gains, you can't really expect to gain more than a kilo or two of solid muscle weight PER YEAR. It's a very slow process, and is something best done for the health benefits rather than trying to look big asap.

The people you see walking around with big muscles have been doing it for years consistently, or have done (or are doing) steroids. Plain and simple. In about 10 years of consistent muscle workouts, as in 3-4 times a week, an hour each time, no more than a week's rest every couple months.

For women it's a bit different. Many DON'T lift weights for fear of getting too much muscle. This is a myth. Women simply lack the testosterone required to "bulk up and look like a man" if you know what I mean. It's literally impossible (it's simple science), and those women who have, were taking steroids.

A good weight lifting routine is always better than cardio. It burns more calories, promotes better health, and does a lot more for your body... such as shapign and toning

This part I don't agree with. Strong (not large, but strong; they are not the same) arm/leg/chest/back muscles can spare me from a heart attack? Cardio and core strength promotes hip dyplasia deterrence, strong back muscles, blood flow, and heart health. I can't agree that lifting weights is better than cardio for a human body long term life, but I would agree that it has benefits for other reasons.

This is the myth, and what I started out thinking as well. I'll link the science and studies tomorrow when I have time. Long story short, that there is a right way to lift, and doing so does for you everything you think straight cardio does.

Extreme heavy lifters, with proper breathing exercises, can run 12 miles on an average day? Outside of the weight they carry, their breathing is mild at the end of a 12 mile run with no slow down or break on mild inclind/decline at a relative pace?

This is, of course, not focusing on the impact on their knees/back based on their body composition, and what that might look like long term. Just strictly focusing on cardio vs. lifting and how those might intertwine.

Extremes on either side are terrible... why bring those into the mix?

I was using extreme examples because how I interpreted the content was "weight lifting can accommodate long distance running because heavy lifting can have certain cardio, vascular, and pulmonology benefits that can displace distance running or otherwise long term cardio activity". I was making an assumption that you were on a single side of weight lifting being able to displace a mix of running/hiking/etc.

That is my fault for misinterpreting and not asking many more questions.

scottalanmiller

Obsolesce

Watch out for those natural flavors, they're tricking your brain!

https://foodbabe.com/natural-flavors-really-bad-must-watch/

momurda

Roger Bannister, The 4 Minute Man has died.

RojoLoco

@tim_g said in Fitness and Weightloss:

Watch out for those natural flavors, they're tricking your brain!

https://foodbabe.com/natural-flavors-really-bad-must-watch/

Got any better sources for that story? Vani Hari is a fucking charlatan who uses her mindless minions to attack companies she doesn't like - when they decide to yield to the pressure, she gets an overpaid consulting gig with that company. Everything she writes or does is strictly motivated by money and extremely misguided, non-scientific opinions. To paraphrase the article below, she's the Dr. Oz of food. Taking her advice on anything is kinda like taking advice from Gwyneth Paltrow.

https://respectfulinsolence.com/2015/03/17/vani-hari-a-k-a-the-food-babe-responds-to-the-new-york-times-ineptly-as-usual/