Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10
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@Dashrender Ok but why is there authentication on printing? Is there a problem with someone printing when they should not be? Just looking for details as I've never done this before.
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@DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Romo Why is it setup like that?
Just a guess here - but if you want authentication on printing - how else would you do it?
PIN or LDAP would be my guess.
There are many options - but those sound like they require an external source, where the current one appears to only require the printer itself (likely with an add-on package).
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@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Ok but why is there authentication on printing? Is there a problem with someone printing when they should not be? Just looking for details as I've never done this before.
I've had to do this before and it was because the business paid per page, and thus wanted to know if people were printing off things that they shouldn't.
It's just a means of accountability. It John is printing off his kids fundraiser flyers on the company dime. . .
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@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Ok but why is there authentication on printing? Is there a problem with someone printing when they should not be? Just looking for details as I've never done this before.
I had to enable this years ago. Printing was out of control. User accountability was cited. We used AD and tied the printers into the login. Each user had individual printers mapped. I realize that this is nowhere near efficient, but it was pushed this way by the powers that be. No biggie once it was done. We don't have huge numbers of new users or user changes that it's a pain.
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@scotth said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Ok but why is there authentication on printing? Is there a problem with someone printing when they should not be? Just looking for details as I've never done this before.
I had to enable this years ago. Printing was out of control. User accountability was cited. We used AD and tied the printers into the login. Each user had individual printers mapped. I realize that this is nowhere near efficient, but it was pushed this way by the powers that be. No biggie once it was done. We don't have huge numbers of new users or user changes that it's a pain.
Seems odd that you would control it via a password on the printer tab. Can't you just control it from the print queue on the server? or is the printer doing LDAP/AD auth and the users are printing direct?
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@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Ok but why is there authentication on printing? Is there a problem with someone printing when they should not be? Just looking for details as I've never done this before.
I prevent most users from printing color. We don't prevent or monitor B/W print usage.
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@Dashrender said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@scotth said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Ok but why is there authentication on printing? Is there a problem with someone printing when they should not be? Just looking for details as I've never done this before.
I had to enable this years ago. Printing was out of control. User accountability was cited. We used AD and tied the printers into the login. Each user had individual printers mapped. I realize that this is nowhere near efficient, but it was pushed this way by the powers that be. No biggie once it was done. We don't have huge numbers of new users or user changes that it's a pain.
Seems odd that you would control it via a password on the printer tab. Can't you just control it from the print queue on the server? or is the printer doing LDAP/AD auth and the users are printing direct?
We have AD tie-in for each printer capable of doing it. Most of what we have supports it. The users pull in once we let it cook.
EDIT: The users have the printers mapped for each workstation ~ 80 users total who can print. I also set the printer port as an IP address. I h * a * t * e the wsd mapping. Nothing but trouble
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@scotth said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@scotth said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Ok but why is there authentication on printing? Is there a problem with someone printing when they should not be? Just looking for details as I've never done this before.
I had to enable this years ago. Printing was out of control. User accountability was cited. We used AD and tied the printers into the login. Each user had individual printers mapped. I realize that this is nowhere near efficient, but it was pushed this way by the powers that be. No biggie once it was done. We don't have huge numbers of new users or user changes that it's a pain.
Seems odd that you would control it via a password on the printer tab. Can't you just control it from the print queue on the server? or is the printer doing LDAP/AD auth and the users are printing direct?
We have AD tie-in for each printer capable of doing it. Most of what we have supports it. The users pull in once we let it cook.
So you have to manually set something in the print driver to get the creds to pass to the printer to then be auth'ed by AD? Sucks that the driver does just pass along the current logged in Windows user.
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@Dashrender said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@scotth said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@scotth said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Ok but why is there authentication on printing? Is there a problem with someone printing when they should not be? Just looking for details as I've never done this before.
I had to enable this years ago. Printing was out of control. User accountability was cited. We used AD and tied the printers into the login. Each user had individual printers mapped. I realize that this is nowhere near efficient, but it was pushed this way by the powers that be. No biggie once it was done. We don't have huge numbers of new users or user changes that it's a pain.
Seems odd that you would control it via a password on the printer tab. Can't you just control it from the print queue on the server? or is the printer doing LDAP/AD auth and the users are printing direct?
We have AD tie-in for each printer capable of doing it. Most of what we have supports it. The users pull in once we let it cook.
So you have to manually set something in the print driver to get the creds to pass to the printer to then be auth'ed by AD? Sucks that the driver does just pass along the current logged in Windows user.
Yes. C`est la vie
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@DustinB3403 Ok cool I get that, thanks
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@Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.
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@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.
That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".
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@DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.
That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".
Boy, I would hope it's not like that. I would expect paper to simply be part of their computer/IT budget for that department. If they overuse in paper, then they might have to wait before getting an upgraded computer, etc.
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@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.
We are to small to worry about departments like that - or perhaps better to say - we are a size and management doesn't care about splitting it out like that.
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@Dashrender said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.
That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".
Boy, I would hope it's not like that. I would expect paper to simply be part of their computer/IT budget for that department. If they overuse in paper, then they might have to wait before getting an upgraded computer, etc.
Office Supplies, not IT.
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@DustinB3403 That's the way it is here. Has been for many years i guess. No one has ever run out as long as I've been here.
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@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Romo Why is it setup like that?
Don't really know, from my interaction with the owner I guess that is how she wanted it setup =). She was the one that could explain what was happening, so I could fix the issue quite fast after I spoke with her.
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@DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.
That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".
Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.
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@dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.
That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".
Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.
How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .
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@DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@dbeato said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@DustinB3403 said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@jmoore said in Konica Minolta BizHub C3850 No Printing on Windows 10:
@Dashrender Got it. Our departments have their own budget so if they want to print color they can but they figured out fast to be responsible for their own paper.
That seems like a bad approach, since any given department could be forced to stop work "because they overran their paper budget".
Usually, they use the code and pin to know where they are using color but otherwise default is to allow b&w to print without a code.
How does the printer know the difference? Black is a color. .
Really?
