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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @nadnerB said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @nadnerB said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      https://www.itnews.com.au/news/logitech-in-talks-to-acquire-headphone-maker-plantronics---sources-516046

      Logitech International SA, a Swiss manufacturer of keyboards and webcams, is in discussions to acquire Plantronics Inc, a US maker of Bluetooth earpieces and gaming headsets, people familiar with the matter said on Friday.

      Apparently, not the case anymore...
      https://techcrunch.com/2018/11/25/that-logitech-and-plantronics-deal-is-now-dead/

      Good, IMO it would be bad for us consumers.

      I'd rather seem them competing against each other so we get better products. I think more innovation comes from competition.

      Only to a point. There is plenty of competition already. Too much competition stops innovation, too. There is a careful balance.

      Example... film grew best when there were two key players that had to beat each other on price and quality. And a third player who made crap for people who wanted something dirt cheap. Any fourth competitor would have only lowered the profits for the other three leading to less money (because of less value) from innovation.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        As it is Logitech is up against tons of competitors. Microsoft is one of them. So no shortage of competition, just watering down of profits and investment money.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          As it is Logitech is up against tons of competitors. Microsoft is one of them. So no shortage of competition, just watering down of profits and investment money.

          I see where you're coming from here - but how often do we see two goliaths heading an industry and innovation seems to stall - at least to the consumer.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            As it is Logitech is up against tons of competitors. Microsoft is one of them. So no shortage of competition, just watering down of profits and investment money.

            I see where you're coming from here - but how often do we see two goliaths heading an industry and innovation seems to stall - at least to the consumer.

            Anytime consumers choose a product based on marketing rather than actual innovation.

            Consumers determine innovation's priority in an non-monopoly marketplace, not competition. Competition does not drive innovation because consumers don't buy based on innovation.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              consumers don't buy based on innovation

              I do. Innovation can and does tend to lead to better products. Unless it's Apple. I don't consider a larger screen, extra button bar, or new color innovative. 😉

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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                @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                consumers don't buy based on innovation

                I do. Innovation can and does tend to lead to better products. Unless it's Apple. I don't consider a larger screen, extra button bar, or new color innovative. 😉

                What about new color aluminum?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                  @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  consumers don't buy based on innovation

                  I do. Innovation can and does tend to lead to better products. Unless it's Apple. I don't consider a larger screen, extra button bar, or new color innovative. 😉

                  All consumers say that they do, but very few actually do. And even if a few do, it has to be the majority - enough to make innovation more profitable than advertising.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    consumers don't buy based on innovation

                    I do. Innovation can and does tend to lead to better products. Unless it's Apple. I don't consider a larger screen, extra button bar, or new color innovative. 😉

                    What about new color aluminum?

                    Sold.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      consumers don't buy based on innovation

                      I do. Innovation can and does tend to lead to better products. Unless it's Apple. I don't consider a larger screen, extra button bar, or new color innovative. 😉

                      What about new color aluminum?

                      Where's that clear aluminum Scotty promised all those years ago now?

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        consumers don't buy based on innovation

                        I do. Innovation can and does tend to lead to better products. Unless it's Apple. I don't consider a larger screen, extra button bar, or new color innovative. 😉

                        All consumers say that they do, but very few actually do. And even if a few do, it has to be the majority - enough to make innovation more profitable than advertising.

                        Or being able to market new innovative features or tech for an existing or new product...

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          consumers don't buy based on innovation

                          I do. Innovation can and does tend to lead to better products. Unless it's Apple. I don't consider a larger screen, extra button bar, or new color innovative. 😉

                          All consumers say that they do, but very few actually do. And even if a few do, it has to be the majority - enough to make innovation more profitable than advertising.

                          Or being able to market new innovative features or tech for an existing or new product...

                          No new features needed to market as if you have them. Just ask Apple.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Nextcloud 15.0.0 RC 1 is out.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              Nextcloud 15.0.0 RC 1 is out.

                              Is it just me, or have they moved quickly this go round? Seems like I just got 14 installed a couple of months ago.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                Nextcloud 15.0.0 RC 1 is out.

                                Is it just me, or have they moved quickly this go round? Seems like I just got 14 installed a couple of months ago.

                                Yeah, although they've always moved quickly. They are only a few years old and already on 15!

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Ubiquiti EdgeRouter 12 announced.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    Ubiquiti EdgeRouter 12 announced.

                                    Has a switch chip built in (oddly on ports eth0 - eth7) and PoE pass-through. Both things are gimmicks IMO.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch agreed, and it is cheap, priced well below the EdgeRouter 8. I find the naming convention odd, you can't clearly tell how the 3, 4, 6, 8, 10, and 12 compare to each other. You just have to know the models.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        consumers don't buy based on innovation

                                        I do. Innovation can and does tend to lead to better products. Unless it's Apple. I don't consider a larger screen, extra button bar, or new color innovative. 😉

                                        All consumers say that they do, but very few actually do. And even if a few do, it has to be the majority - enough to make innovation more profitable than advertising.

                                        Or being able to market new innovative features or tech for an existing or new product...

                                        No new features needed to market as if you have them. Just ask Apple.

                                        Clearly that's not working so well for them now with the XS and XR - sales are terrible for them.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          Ubiquiti EdgeRouter 12 announced.

                                          Has a switch chip built in (oddly on ports eth0 - eth7) and PoE pass-through. Both things are gimmicks IMO.

                                          0_1543269200275_6549d6df-659f-44c7-9580-f8b899ddef99-image.png

                                          Is there true isolation in ports 1-7 if you want it? or is this just a 5 port router with a switch hanging off one port?

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            Ubiquiti EdgeRouter 12 announced.

                                            Has a switch chip built in (oddly on ports eth0 - eth7) and PoE pass-through. Both things are gimmicks IMO.

                                            0_1543269200275_6549d6df-659f-44c7-9580-f8b899ddef99-image.png

                                            Is there true isolation in ports 1-7 if you want it? or is this just a 5 port router with a switch hanging off one port?

                                            Yes, all EdgeRouter hardware is like that. You have to add the port to the switch chip.

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