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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

      @dustinb3403 Is he saying he uses a cable toner to identify every single cable in his network?

      Yes. But he is also saying he doesn't have any patch panels in his network at all. He runs from the office to the switch directly.

      Nothing in between.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

        @wirestyle22 said in I can't even:

        @dustinb3403 Is he saying he uses a cable toner to identify every single cable in his network?

        Yes. But he is also saying he doesn't have any patch panels in his network at all. He runs from the office to the switch directly.

        Nothing in between.

        Yeah, that is insane. Not only do I label I also color code the cables. If I ever get to the point where I can't trust my own labels just take me out behind the chemical shed and shoot me

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Which, while it has the merit of saving the cost of the patch panel and patch cords, is just nuts in it's self. As most of the time the damage occurs to the cable at either the wall jack (office side) or in the network closet.

          Which means he would be forced to put new ends on the cables each time a cord is damaged. Rather than just replacing the whip.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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            @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

            Which, while it has the merit of saving the cost of the patch panel and patch cords, is just nuts in it's self. As most of the time the damage occurs to the cable at either the wall jack (office side) or in the network closet.

            Which means he would be forced to put new ends on the cables each time a cord is damaged. Rather than just replacing the whip.

            Yeah but even just organization wise it's stupid.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              Yeah that too. Has presumably he is labeling each cord (rather than toning each cable every time).

              If he punched down the cables to a patch panel, he would only have to label them once on each end, and maybe tone them if something isn't kosher.

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              • brianlittlejohnB
                brianlittlejohn
                last edited by

                Does he use wall jacks? Or just run them straight out of the wall to the device... same concept.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @brianlittlejohn
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                  @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

                  Does he use wall jacks? Or just run them straight out of the wall to the device... same concept.

                  Agreed

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                  • brianlittlejohnB
                    brianlittlejohn
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                    Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
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                      @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

                      Does he use wall jacks? Or just run them straight out of the wall to the device... same concept.

                      Yeah - I'd like to agree, but I don't. At least around here, it's much more likely that PCs are moved than cabling in the closet... but that's just my own personal experience.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @brianlittlejohn
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                        @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

                        Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

                        Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in I can't even:

                          @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

                          Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

                          Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

                          That's a weird use of stranded. Stranded is a type of cable, not something you do.

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                          • RojoLocoR
                            RojoLoco @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @dashrender said in I can't even:

                            @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

                            Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

                            Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

                            Other way 'round.... solid to the patch panel, stranded in the patch cables to the switch.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @RojoLoco
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                              @rojoloco said in I can't even:

                              @dashrender said in I can't even:

                              @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

                              Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

                              Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

                              Other way 'round.... solid to the patch panel, stranded in the patch cables to the switch.

                              OK that makes a bit more sense.. but still, a lot of effort.

                              I think it really depends - the creator of the original post on SW is crazy in their stated desire to tone every time he checks a cable - they why bother labeling at all? you either trust your label (on a cable or on a patch panel) or you don't.

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                              • brianlittlejohnB
                                brianlittlejohn @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

                                Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

                                Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

                                No... i'm saying the opposite.

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                                • RojoLocoR
                                  RojoLoco @Dashrender
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                                  @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                  @rojoloco said in I can't even:

                                  @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                  @brianlittlejohn said in I can't even:

                                  Besides organization, the benefit of going to a patch panel is to switch from solid to stranded cabling where the cables are more likely to be bent and move around more.

                                  Eh? Are you saying you can't/don't use stranded in patch cables, but do from the patch panel to the wall plate?

                                  Other way 'round.... solid to the patch panel, stranded in the patch cables to the switch.

                                  OK that makes a bit more sense.. but still, a lot of effort.

                                  Most install cable (inside the wall) is solid... that's where the solid cable comes in.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

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                                    • dbeatoD
                                      dbeato @DustinB3403
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                                      @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                      Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

                                      I asked what were the requirement as it was so confusing...

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                                        @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                        Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

                                        Kathy. 17 years in IT

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                          Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

                                          Where do people find these consultants?

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                            Is told to setup a remote "server" running Windows 10 to act as their backup server.

                                            Where do people find these consultants?

                                            You can't just buy a desktop from BestBuy and run everything from that?

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