I can't even
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This guy is really angry about how much Windows costs, thinks it is insane, but gets upset if you even ask why he didn't consider a free alternative. Clearly the cost can't be insane if he sees that level of value in it, the two things can't overlap.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2096480-server-2016-licensing-again
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@scottalanmiller Personally, I think CALs are silly, but it's model Microsoft chose for licensing. Who are any of us to complain?
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@eddiejennings said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller Personally, I think CALs are silly, but it's model Microsoft chose for licensing. Who are any of us to complain?
How come you think that they are silly? I actually have a pending video made about how great they are. What's the alternative?
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@scottalanmiller Not have them. You buy a server for your network and pay for a license of Windows Server. Great! Now your users and devices can connect to it. Rather than buy a server for your network, pay for a license for Windows Server, and pay for a license for each entity that wants to connect to it.
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Sorry, I answered the "what's the alternative?" question. Why are they silly? I'm of a mind when you buy a server license, that's it. Your users can access the server. Rather than adding to the cost and potential complexity of now paying for each entity to have the right to access the server you just licensed. There's nothing wrong with the choice to use that licensing model. I simply don't prefer it.
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@eddiejennings said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller Not have them. You buy a server for your network and pay for a license of Windows Server. Great! Now your users and devices can connect to it. Rather than buy a server for your network, pay for a license for Windows Server, and pay for a license for each entity that wants to connect to it.
But that would be insanely expensive for small companies. the company with 10 users would have to pay the same as the one with 1,000 users. SMBs couldn't afford paying enterprise prices.
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CALs are really, really easy - just count your users. Hard to get simpler. And they keep the price down.
CALs are easy and reduce the cost.
What's not to like?
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
CALs are really, really easy - just count your users. Hard to get simpler. And they keep the price down.
CALs are easy and reduce the cost.
What's not to like?
lol - what's not to like is the cost at all.
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I'll start another thread, so this doesn't turn into the Hyper-V-like thread.
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@scottalanmiller oh boy... wow. just wow.
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@bnrstnr said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller oh boy... wow. just wow.
Yeah.... I want X... but really want Y!
Just use Y.
But I want X!!
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@scottalanmiller Even more though, 4GB installed equals 2GB usable, so 8GB must equal 4GB? lmao
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I think I'm going cold-turkey for a while.
Some of the things asked just hurt to read out loud.
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@bnrstnr said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller Even more though, 4GB installed equals 2GB usable, so 8GB must equal 4GB? lmao
Yeah, I was pretty confused about that one. I think he's thinking Windows is insane, rather than has limits.
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https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2096663-sata-and-sas-interface
I want to tell this moron that he just needs to use a hammer to install those drives...
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I feel like this is a really serious misunderstanding of storage and just "systems" in general. Am I crazy? He seems to have no concept of the resulting system, he sees it as just the underlying parts, not a system on its own.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2096720-best-workloads-for-hybrid-vs-flash-storage-arrays
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
I feel like this is a really serious misunderstanding of storage and just "systems" in general. Am I crazy? He seems to have no concept of the resulting system, he sees it as just the underlying parts, not a system on its own.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2096720-best-workloads-for-hybrid-vs-flash-storage-arrays
Holy cow, this guy is a moron...
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
I was actually consulting on a backup design just yesterday where we were using Hyper-V in exactly this way as a backup target, but building the backup system using Starwind. It was a backup device in every way, no expectation of VMs to run there, no live systems ever, just Hyper-V + Starwind used to handle the replica-based file backups.
That's a good setup if you need HA/FT backups and there is a particular requirement to always be able to recover. We have a similar configuration using free version https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san-free on top of two decommissioned DELL servers packed with drives and SMB share as VEEAM repository on top. Works like a charm.
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A SAN (actually a DAS) and three servers for.... FIVE VMs, but doesn't have a backup server and doesn't know how to take backups.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2097831-backup-servers
I'm just... I... no.... can't.... what...
