Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines
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@Breffni-Potter said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
Keeps more money in the local economy, encourages new startup firms who could then export their software in competition with what else is out there.
Just look at how badly broken Cisco products are thanks to the NSA. Should we still trust made in America companies?
LOL he said made in America.
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@IRJ said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
Putin is a smart man. I think this a good move.
It also more directly allows him to have influence over the owners of the new company to provide back doors to his government.
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@Dashrender said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
@IRJ said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
Putin is a smart man. I think this a good move.
It also more directly allows him to have influence over the owners of the new company to provide back doors to his government.
True, but with the United States stance on Russia doesn't give them much choice. If the roles were reversed I am sure we would do the same thing.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
Just look at how badly broken Cisco products are thanks to the NSA. Should we still trust made in America companies?
Cisco Products aren't insecure due to the NSA (unless you bought from the blackmarket but who would a buy a security device from an untrusted source). They exploited vulnerabilities in them just like they have every single brand out there. It's not if you can get it, it's when. Every device can be hacked. That's why monitoring is just as important.
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@Jason said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
@Breffni-Potter said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
Just look at how badly broken Cisco products are thanks to the NSA. Should we still trust made in America companies?
Cisco Products aren't insecure due to the NSA (unless you bought from the blackmarket but who would a buy a security device from an untrusted source). They exploited vulnerabilities in them just like they have every single brand out there. It's not if you can get it, it's when. Every device can be hacked. That's why monitoring is just as important.
Don't forget that we've known that someone is intercepting these devices when going through customs and doing things to them, and that is as much as we know.
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@travisdh1 said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
@Jason said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
@Breffni-Potter said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
Just look at how badly broken Cisco products are thanks to the NSA. Should we still trust made in America companies?
Cisco Products aren't insecure due to the NSA (unless you bought from the blackmarket but who would a buy a security device from an untrusted source). They exploited vulnerabilities in them just like they have every single brand out there. It's not if you can get it, it's when. Every device can be hacked. That's why monitoring is just as important.
Don't forget that we've known that someone is intercepting these devices when going through customs and doing things to them, and that is as much as we know.
Only the black market ones. Not authorized Cisco Dealers.
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@Jason said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
@Breffni-Potter said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
Just look at how badly broken Cisco products are thanks to the NSA. Should we still trust made in America companies?
Cisco Products aren't insecure due to the NSA (unless you bought from the blackmarket but who would a buy a security device from an untrusted source). They exploited vulnerabilities in them just like they have every single brand out there. It's not if you can get it, it's when. Every device can be hacked. That's why monitoring is just as important.
Actually they've been caught physically modifying them at customs check points.
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@Jason said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
@travisdh1 said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
@Jason said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
@Breffni-Potter said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
Just look at how badly broken Cisco products are thanks to the NSA. Should we still trust made in America companies?
Cisco Products aren't insecure due to the NSA (unless you bought from the blackmarket but who would a buy a security device from an untrusted source). They exploited vulnerabilities in them just like they have every single brand out there. It's not if you can get it, it's when. Every device can be hacked. That's why monitoring is just as important.
Don't forget that we've known that someone is intercepting these devices when going through customs and doing things to them, and that is as much as we know.
Only the black market ones. Not authorized Cisco Dealers.
How do they even differentiate those? Black market ones don't even pass through customs. The ones in customs that we are talking about are the direct ones.
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@Jason said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
@Breffni-Potter said in Moscow to Microsoft: We're ditching Outlook, Exchange on 600,000 machines:
Just look at how badly broken Cisco products are thanks to the NSA. Should we still trust made in America companies?
Cisco Products aren't insecure due to the NSA
Yes, yes they are.
They physically intercept couriers and replace the brand new hardware with their NSA rigged gear.
They also built a toolkit to break into Cisco products and....lost it to thieves. -
