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    Hard reset - what does it mean to you?

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    • RojoLocoR
      RojoLoco
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      When you force it to power off and back on? Anything short of a "factory reset"?

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      • IRJI
        IRJ
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        Pulling the battery or doing a manual shutdown by holding the power button.

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        • IRJI
          IRJ
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          Hard reset means forced power cycle to me. Soft reset is a reboot.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            Hard Reset is a forced power off reboot. Remove battery or button combo depending on the phone model.

            factory reset is a factory reset.

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco
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              I had the first correct response - what do I win?

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @RojoLoco
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                @RojoLoco said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                I had the first correct response - what do I win?

                This isn't jeopardy, you can't answer in the form of a question so I win.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @RojoLoco
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                  @RojoLoco said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                  When you force it to power off and back on? Anything short of a "factory reset"?

                  Yep this, pulling the power out of the device (essentially) without the factory reset.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                    I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                    A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it, but the idea is no data loss (unless data is lost because the device was hung and you are rebooting to start it working again).

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Hard Reset involves a power cycle.

                      Soft reset doesn't break the power circuit from the CPU/memory.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller
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                        Hard reset involves a car, a can of sardines, two people of short stature, fishing line, a coffee can (empty), bottle of cheap vodka and two hours.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                          There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                          I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                          A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it....

                          Soft reset is definitely a reboot.

                          Factory reset takes it back to factory.

                          If you use hard reset to mean factory reset, what do you call an actual hard reset? You are missing a term.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                            @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                            There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                            I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                            A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it....

                            Soft reset is definitely a reboot.

                            Factory reset takes it back to factory.

                            If you use hard reset to mean factory reset, what do you call an actual hard reset? You are missing a term.

                            I call it a reboot - doesn't matter that you're forcing it, it's still a reboot. - and actually it's not even that. It's Power down and Power up.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                              @Dashrender said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                              There's no winning here - it's just a look at what people call it.

                              I'm with Danielle - a hard reset is a wipe and reload of the device to factory settings.

                              A soft reset is just a reboot, however you have to accomplish it....

                              Soft reset is definitely a reboot.

                              Factory reset takes it back to factory.

                              If you use hard reset to mean factory reset, what do you call an actual hard reset? You are missing a term.

                              I call it a reboot - doesn't matter that you're forcing it, it's still a reboot. - and actually it's not even that. It's Power down and Power up.

                              It IS a reboot. The discussion is about what kind of reboot - soft or hard. Bench people have to know which they are doing. They are both reboots.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reboot_(computing)

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                                • Minion QueenM
                                  Minion Queen
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                                  But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @Minion Queen
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                                    @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                    But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                    On iPhone hold home and the lock button (pre iphone 7) to do so. No idea how it works on iPhone 7 yet.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Minion Queen
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                                      @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                      But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                      yeah - JB tried logicing me on Telegram about the hard reset coming from the ancient PC days when they had actual power switches, flipping is physically removed power from the system, aka a hard power down.

                                      I agree with Minion-Queen, short of removing the battery, phones don't have this option.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        factory reset wasn't really a thing with PCs until Apple did it with the Macs (no clue when they added that - boot to BIOS with enough information to get the NIC on the internet and redownload the image for the system).

                                        Windows still doesn't have this option.

                                        Windows does include a 'restore to original' option, but I don't think it's really as clean as a phone is. In other words, if I get a virus, I'm still wiping the Windows machine and reinstalling from external media, but with a phone, a factory reset, generally I haven't been concerned that a virus could survive that (but now it seems that some can).

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @Minion Queen
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                                          @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                          But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                          Do iPhones not have a hard reset option? Every Android phone I've used has some option to do a hard reset in order to access the boot loader (of course, being me, I don't buy phones without that option.)

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @travisdh1
                                            last edited by Dashrender

                                            @travisdh1 said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                            @Minion-Queen said in Hard reset - what does it mean to you?:

                                            But cell phones in particular do not have a HARD reboot. Only a reset....

                                            Do iPhones not have a hard reset option? Every Android phone I've used has some option to do a hard reset in order to access the boot loader (of course, being me, I don't buy phones without that option.)

                                            How is accessing the boot loader a hard reset? You have to cut power from the phone to get it to present the boot loader to you?

                                            Holding down the power and volume down buttons while power on is not the same as a hard reset, or even as a reboot.

                                            yes, I'm getting a little punchie now 🙂

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