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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Fucking over it.

      I'll be back later.

      Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

      That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
      Smoked real quick.
      It's not professional.

      Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

      He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

      here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

      Then why are you listening to him at all. you are making more problems by involving someone that should not be.

      because; He is the "direct supervisor " of our omaha Hospitality.. So he is asking me questions and poking me. saying x y and z about my time card.

      Time to go to HR and report a SERIOUS issue. Seriously, go to HR, or the owners. Tell them that your supervisor is threatening to not pay you for working and that obviously that's not legal and that pay for work is not at his discretion and that the situation needs to be handled... today. Accept no pushback on the pay, and no pushback on the timing.

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      • popesterP
        popester @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Fucking over it.

        I'll be back later.

        Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

        That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
        Smoked real quick.
        It's not professional.

        Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

        He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

        here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

        So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

        He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

        My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Fucking over it.

          I'll be back later.

          Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

          That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
          Smoked real quick.
          It's not professional.

          Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

          He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

          here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

          So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

          He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

          Right, so the only reasonable response is to tell the guy to fuck off, and if you ever mention my hours again or my pay is short i'm going to the state employment board.

          It's a situation that really needs HIS manager and/or HR and/or owner at THIS time. Don't give the supervisor the ability to backtrack and pretend he wasn't trying to steal. This is now a serious legal issue and the company should be made aware so that they are culpable in a suit.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @popester
            last edited by

            @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Fucking over it.

            I'll be back later.

            Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

            That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
            Smoked real quick.
            It's not professional.

            Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

            He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

            here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

            So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

            He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

            My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

            If they threaten to fire you because you aren't willing to work for free, walk out and go straight to a lawyer.

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco
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              Also please post the supervisor's name and work address. I think some glitter bombs are in order.

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              • popesterP
                popester @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Fucking over it.

                I'll be back later.

                Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                Smoked real quick.
                It's not professional.

                Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

                If they threaten to fire you because you aren't willing to work for free, walk out and go straight to a lawyer.

                Cut and dry. You most likely wouldnt even have to put up a retainer. This sounds like a lawyers cha-ching wet dream.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                  last edited by

                  @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Also please post the supervisor's name and work address. I think some glitter bombs are in order.

                  Honestly it is "contact the customers" time. In fact, it's "report to the BSA" time, as well.

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                  • WrCombsW
                    WrCombs @popester
                    last edited by

                    @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Fucking over it.

                    I'll be back later.

                    Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                    That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                    Smoked real quick.
                    It's not professional.

                    Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                    He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                    here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                    So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                    He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                    My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

                    Going to his boss this afternoon

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @popester
                      last edited by

                      @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Fucking over it.

                      I'll be back later.

                      Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                      That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                      Smoked real quick.
                      It's not professional.

                      Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                      He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                      here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                      So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                      He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                      My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

                      If they threaten to fire you because you aren't willing to work for free, walk out and go straight to a lawyer.

                      Cut and dry. You most likely wouldnt even have to put up a retainer. This sounds like a lawyers cha-ching wet dream.

                      And the state AG should be having a field day. Predatory employers are their bread and butter.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                        last edited by

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        Fucking over it.

                        I'll be back later.

                        Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                        That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                        Smoked real quick.
                        It's not professional.

                        Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                        He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                        here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                        So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                        He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                        My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

                        Going to his boss this afternoon

                        Remember, ALL time involved with putting in your time, talking about your time, arguing to get paid... is work time. You are at work, working. If you weren't working there, you'd not have to spend this time.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco
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                          Is there an "investigative reporter" on one of the local news teams? They'd have a field day with this as well.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Given that we also know that the company is heavily involved in piracy, they seem to be on some seriously shaky ground. Imagine what a full audit of that place would turn up!

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                            • WrCombsW
                              WrCombs
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                              He has no say in Firing me; he can ask but that's not whats going down.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                                last edited by

                                @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Is there an "investigative reporter" on one of the local news teams? They'd have a field day with this as well.

                                Heck yeah, that's definitely an option.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @WrCombs
                                  last edited by

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  Spinning up my server 2019 VM with AD, thinking I need practice with Hyper-V as well..
                                  thought?

                                  Why are yo doing this. We talked about this the other day. Just don't.

                                  You don't need to know this much about AD.

                                  Stop fucking with dead tech, no matter what @Dashrender thinks of it.

                                  Spend your evenings doing courses on O365

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                                  • WrCombsW
                                    WrCombs @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Spinning up my server 2019 VM with AD, thinking I need practice with Hyper-V as well..
                                    thought?

                                    Why are yo doing this. We talked about this the other day. Just don't.

                                    Installing Hyper-V?
                                    Cause I want to get more familiar with it?

                                    You don't need to know this much about AD.

                                    I don't?Every Job Posting I've seen requires some knowledge of AD. even if i was to land a job and move them to azure or O365 I can't do it as the first thing I do.

                                    Stop fucking with dead tech, no matter what @Dashrender thinks of it.

                                    IDK man, @Dashrender has been teaching me a lot.

                                    Spend your evenings doing courses on O365

                                    I started the Microsoft Course.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @WrCombs
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                                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      IDK man, @Dashrender has been teaching me a lot.

                                      Not anything that will actually make you valuable. You can learn AD all you want and get more basic shit ass jobs. But why keep looking at crap?

                                      As much as I am friends with him, @Dashrender is a horrible example of what to look up to in IT.

                                      He knows a lot, yes. But it is all mostly old. He is in a great position with the company he works for which has the weight of legacy crap and misunderstood HIPAA holding it back.

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                                      • thwrT
                                        thwr @WrCombs
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                                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Spinning up my server 2019 VM with AD, thinking I need practice with Hyper-V as well..
                                        thought?

                                        Single host Hyper V operation is very simple. I wrote an article over at @StarWind_Software's blog a while ago which explains the basic networking stuff (the articles there are all great). Could be a good starting point.

                                        More advanced topics include things like backups, MAC spoofing (required by VPNs, for example), VLANs vs multiple NICs (important for VPNs and firewalls for example), resource allocation, correct snapshot usage, different virtual disk types, underlying storage architecture (beware, that's the personal topic of @scottalanmiller :p) etc. IMHO, backups and the underlying storage are by far the most important things to learn.

                                        I prefer the learning-by-doing approach. You could, for example, build a working VPN server. Try SoftEther on a Linux VM, a really cool and free to use multiprotocol VPN server. Let it authenticate inbound SSTP connections against your Active Directory. Or play around with Veeam B&R.

                                        Thanks, I'll look into that.

                                        yw.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                                          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          I don't?Every Job Posting I've seen requires some knowledge of AD.

                                          Yes, like how to attach a desktop or change a password. Takes seconds to learn. You've already done those things. Learning to deploy it isn't a bad thing to know, but not a priority. No one is ever going to hire you to set up a new AD system, just to do basic maintenance of an old one. You literally can learn that stuff in an evening. So put in your one evening and move on.

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                                          • WrCombsW
                                            WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            I don't?Every Job Posting I've seen requires some knowledge of AD.

                                            Yes, like how to attach a desktop or change a password. Takes seconds to learn. You've already done those things. Learning to deploy it isn't a bad thing to know, but not a priority. No one is ever going to hire you to set up a new AD system, just to do basic maintenance of an old one. You literally can learn that stuff in an evening. So put in your one evening and move on.

                                            I did that already. Only thing I gotta figure out is how to add a Computer/device to the domain

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