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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @WrCombs
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      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Fucking over it.

      I'll be back later.

      Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

      That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
      Smoked real quick.
      It's not professional.

      Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

      He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

      here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

      Then why are you listening to him at all. you are making more problems by involving someone that should not be.

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      • WrCombsW
        WrCombs @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Fucking over it.

        I'll be back later.

        Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

        That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
        Smoked real quick.
        It's not professional.

        Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

        He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

        here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

        Then why are you listening to him at all. you are making more problems by involving someone that should not be.

        because; He is the "direct supervisor " of our omaha Hospitality.. So he is asking me questions and poking me. saying x y and z about my time card.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @WrCombs
          last edited by

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Fucking over it.

          I'll be back later.

          Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

          That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
          Smoked real quick.
          It's not professional.

          Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

          He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

          here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

          So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @WrCombs
            last edited by

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Fucking over it.

            I'll be back later.

            Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

            That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
            Smoked real quick.
            It's not professional.

            Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

            He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

            here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

            Then why are you listening to him at all. you are making more problems by involving someone that should not be.

            because; He is the "direct supervisor " of our omaha Hospitality.. So he is asking me questions and poking me. saying x y and z about my time card.

            Tell him to fuck off, simple as that.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Fucking over it.

              I'll be back later.

              Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

              That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
              Smoked real quick.
              It's not professional.

              Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

              He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

              here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

              So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

              He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Fucking over it.

                I'll be back later.

                Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                Smoked real quick.
                It's not professional.

                Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                Right, so the only reasonable response is to tell the guy to fuck off, and if you ever mention my hours again or my pay is short i'm going to the state employment board.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                  last edited by

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Fucking over it.

                  I'll be back later.

                  Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                  That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                  Smoked real quick.
                  It's not professional.

                  Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                  He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                  here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                  Then why are you listening to him at all. you are making more problems by involving someone that should not be.

                  because; He is the "direct supervisor " of our omaha Hospitality.. So he is asking me questions and poking me. saying x y and z about my time card.

                  Time to go to HR and report a SERIOUS issue. Seriously, go to HR, or the owners. Tell them that your supervisor is threatening to not pay you for working and that obviously that's not legal and that pay for work is not at his discretion and that the situation needs to be handled... today. Accept no pushback on the pay, and no pushback on the timing.

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                  • popesterP
                    popester @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Fucking over it.

                    I'll be back later.

                    Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                    That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                    Smoked real quick.
                    It's not professional.

                    Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                    He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                    here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                    So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                    He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                    My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Fucking over it.

                      I'll be back later.

                      Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                      That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                      Smoked real quick.
                      It's not professional.

                      Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                      He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                      here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                      So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                      He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                      Right, so the only reasonable response is to tell the guy to fuck off, and if you ever mention my hours again or my pay is short i'm going to the state employment board.

                      It's a situation that really needs HIS manager and/or HR and/or owner at THIS time. Don't give the supervisor the ability to backtrack and pretend he wasn't trying to steal. This is now a serious legal issue and the company should be made aware so that they are culpable in a suit.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @popester
                        last edited by

                        @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        Fucking over it.

                        I'll be back later.

                        Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                        That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                        Smoked real quick.
                        It's not professional.

                        Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                        He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                        here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                        So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                        He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                        My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

                        If they threaten to fire you because you aren't willing to work for free, walk out and go straight to a lawyer.

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco
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                          Also please post the supervisor's name and work address. I think some glitter bombs are in order.

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                          • popesterP
                            popester @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Fucking over it.

                            I'll be back later.

                            Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                            That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                            Smoked real quick.
                            It's not professional.

                            Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                            He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                            here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                            So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                            He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                            My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

                            If they threaten to fire you because you aren't willing to work for free, walk out and go straight to a lawyer.

                            Cut and dry. You most likely wouldnt even have to put up a retainer. This sounds like a lawyers cha-ching wet dream.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                              last edited by

                              @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              Also please post the supervisor's name and work address. I think some glitter bombs are in order.

                              Honestly it is "contact the customers" time. In fact, it's "report to the BSA" time, as well.

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                              • WrCombsW
                                WrCombs @popester
                                last edited by

                                @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Fucking over it.

                                I'll be back later.

                                Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                                That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                                Smoked real quick.
                                It's not professional.

                                Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                                He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                                here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                                So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                                He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                                My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

                                Going to his boss this afternoon

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @popester
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                                  @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  Fucking over it.

                                  I'll be back later.

                                  Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                                  That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                                  Smoked real quick.
                                  It's not professional.

                                  Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                                  He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                                  here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                                  So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                                  He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                                  My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

                                  If they threaten to fire you because you aren't willing to work for free, walk out and go straight to a lawyer.

                                  Cut and dry. You most likely wouldnt even have to put up a retainer. This sounds like a lawyers cha-ching wet dream.

                                  And the state AG should be having a field day. Predatory employers are their bread and butter.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Fucking over it.

                                    I'll be back later.

                                    Calm down and be rational (as best you can) throwing a shit fit will not work in your favor. Good luck.

                                    That's why I went for a walk and grabbed some food.
                                    Smoked real quick.
                                    It's not professional.

                                    Nor legal. US law says you get paid for time worked. In fact, you get paid for work done even if they don't make you do it - they have to fire you if they don't like paying for that extra time (I don't like that law, but I understand why it exists.) If you were in any way involved with them, whether reading email, avialable for a call, at your desk, thinking about their needs... they HAVE to pay. It's not a discussion, it's not a negotiation. The work has been done, the money is now yours. It is theft to not pay you. There's zero "up to the manager" here. Zero. And they can't fire you for demanding not to be stolen from, that's even more illegal. They can't threaten to hurt you to get you to work for free.

                                    He's literally demanding that you be a slave.

                                    here's the kicker; He doesn't have any say in what I get paid.

                                    So then why is he asking/mentioning it or otherwise discussing your pay?

                                    He's attempting to steal from him and convince him not to call the authorities.

                                    My guess is that someone above this prick knows the law and will throw him out on his ass with one meeting regarding his bully tactics. Have you tried going over his head? By all means, get out of there, but at least take it to HR.

                                    Going to his boss this afternoon

                                    Remember, ALL time involved with putting in your time, talking about your time, arguing to get paid... is work time. You are at work, working. If you weren't working there, you'd not have to spend this time.

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                                    • RojoLocoR
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                                      Is there an "investigative reporter" on one of the local news teams? They'd have a field day with this as well.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
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                                        Given that we also know that the company is heavily involved in piracy, they seem to be on some seriously shaky ground. Imagine what a full audit of that place would turn up!

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                                        • WrCombsW
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                                          He has no say in Firing me; he can ask but that's not whats going down.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
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                                            @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            Is there an "investigative reporter" on one of the local news teams? They'd have a field day with this as well.

                                            Heck yeah, that's definitely an option.

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