What Are You Doing Right Now
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Windows Server 2016
Why 2016? You'd want to get 2019 and if you really had a requirement, you'd install 2016.
This is what I was told to order by My micro manager
Good luck, you can't even buy CALs for Server 2016... Only the current version. (of course they are backwards compatible)
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@bnrstnr even better
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
"real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)
So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just finished submitting my order to my bosses for Windows Server 2016 with 36 Cal Licenses( 20 terms, 15 tablets) for this site I'm installing called "Great Shots" in SF SD -
Apparently - and this is what pissed me off yesterday - We only us "Real Servers" (as my boss calls them) when we have a site of 10 terminal...
I started to say we should have been doing this since the beginning and was cut short by boss thinking he knows more than me...
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Any advice (other than leave the job - I've applied to a few places and plan on calling to follow up later today. ) on setting up this Server 2016?
I thought you got a new boss?
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
"real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)
So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol
Beats the shit out of me - We deal only with Windows - So Windows Server OS's? IDK he's weird.
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@bnrstnr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Windows Server 2016
Why 2016? You'd want to get 2019 and if you really had a requirement, you'd install 2016.
This is what I was told to order by My micro manager
Good luck, you can't even buy CALs for Server 2016... Only the current version. (of course they are backwards compatible)
That's what I was getting at. . you can't purchase old, you get downgrade rights for sure, but they don't sell old stuff
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
"real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)
So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol
This is completely outside the topic of conversation - I'm guessing to his boss - those things simply don't exist.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just finished submitting my order to my bosses for Windows Server 2016 with 36 Cal Licenses( 20 terms, 15 tablets) for this site I'm installing called "Great Shots" in SF SD -
Apparently - and this is what pissed me off yesterday - We only us "Real Servers" (as my boss calls them) when we have a site of 10 terminal...
I started to say we should have been doing this since the beginning and was cut short by boss thinking he knows more than me...
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Any advice (other than leave the job - I've applied to a few places and plan on calling to follow up later today. ) on setting up this Server 2016?
I thought you got a new boss?
New GM of the branch, Yes.
My boss (in this respect) is the Department manager/Micro Manager -
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
"real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)
So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol
This is completely outside the topic of conversation - I'm guessing to his boss - those things simply don't exist.
This is how he thinks.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
"real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)
So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol
This is completely outside the topic of conversation - I'm guessing to his boss - those things simply don't exist.
Sure, but to say something isn't real would be comparable to saying that Trains don't exist because airplanes do exist.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just finished submitting my order to my bosses for Windows Server 2016 with 36 Cal Licenses( 20 terms, 15 tablets) for this site I'm installing called "Great Shots" in SF SD -
Apparently - and this is what pissed me off yesterday - We only us "Real Servers" (as my boss calls them) when we have a site of 10 terminal...
I started to say we should have been doing this since the beginning and was cut short by boss thinking he knows more than me...
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Any advice (other than leave the job - I've applied to a few places and plan on calling to follow up later today. ) on setting up this Server 2016?
I thought you got a new boss?
New GM of the branch, Yes.
My boss (in this respect) is the Department manager/Micro Managerso go over his head... Explain to him why your company is selling illegal setups by not selling Windows Server (assuming you even need it - which I'm assuming you actually do because likely that POS system you are selling is Windows only).
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@bnrstnr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Windows Server 2016
Why 2016? You'd want to get 2019 and if you really had a requirement, you'd install 2016.
This is what I was told to order by My micro manager
Good luck, you can't even buy CALs for Server 2016... Only the current version. (of course they are backwards compatible)
That's what I was getting at. . you can't purchase old, you get downgrade rights for sure, but they don't sell old stuff
This would be a fun opportunity for a "you know, I just can't seem to find a way to buy these Server 2016 CALs, what shall I do, sir micro manager?!"
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But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
she wants to see what I can do.Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
"real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)
So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol
This is completely outside the topic of conversation - I'm guessing to his boss - those things simply don't exist.
Sure, but to say something isn't real would be comparable to saying that Trains don't exist because airplanes do exist.
That makes sense, but you have to remember I work with really Uneducated people -
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
"real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)
So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol
This is completely outside the topic of conversation - I'm guessing to his boss - those things simply don't exist.
Sure, but to say something isn't real would be comparable to saying that Trains don't exist because airplanes do exist.
What? Again, Linux based OSes would never even come up - So I'm not sure why you brought them up. The environment that Wr works is is purely Windows - so the boss is only looking at Windows, therefore a 'real' server would only be a Windows Server OS... Talking about a Linux OS serves no benefit at all here.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
she wants to see what I can do.Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.
That part is out of my hands- Cause this is what I was told to order..
Hence why i was frustrated yesterday with the company.. like every other day. -
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Talking about a Linux OS serves no benefit at all here.
There are many benefits to using a Linux OS as the base for the Hypervisor. Fedora and KVM for example, or if @WrCombs really wanted XCP-ng on the metal with a Windows Guest and then an XO installation to back it all up.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
she wants to see what I can do.Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.
Don't forget Dustin - these are restaurants... IF he sets up Hyper-V, he will likely have to do it from within a base Windows Server install so he has a console to work from.
It's unlikely that there will be an "admin" workstation for him to use to manage this server in the future.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
That part is out of my hands- Cause this is what I was told to order..
But your real boss told you to do what was needed. Which would be purchasing 2019 with CALs, even if you install 2016