What Are You Doing Right Now
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There seems to be an expectation (at least from Dustin) that Wr will become endentured to his employer for the life of the loan.
Nothing I have heard from Wr implies that at all.
If the day after Wr gets the laptop (financed by his company) Wr gets another job - Wr just pays his employer the entire remaining balance of the loan - hell, he could argue that he's actually got 12 months to pay it back...
I have seen places say - we'll give you training, i.e. we, the company, will pay for it, but then you have to stay with the company at least 12 months after training is over.
That is NOT the case here - Wr is simply getting a loan, with no other known strings.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender how have you not looked at Snipe-IT yet, we've been discussing it for at least 1 Year plus on this forum alone, and there is a live demo you can play with.
You don't even have to deploy yourself to test the system out.
Time - I just haven't given it any yet. Same goes with MeshCentral though that hasn't been a year plus.
Fair enough.
Did @WrCombs ever get those laptops from you, and did you give him guidance on what he was trying to do with them?
Nope - He found that his company will give him an interest free 12 month loan for a new laptop... currently I think he's working on that. Not that the laptop from me couldn't still be useful.
ugh. .
So the whole "I'm broke and bought the cheapest thing in the world for work" turned into "I'm broke but you'll help me finance a laptop!"
WTF. . . why is his job creating and offering loans?!
Apparently during his interview they asked - do you have a computer - yes - check
do you have internet access at home - yes - checkSo they didn't specifically tell him that a requirement of the job is that they must provide their own computer and internet access to provide after hours support.
So when he approached his boss about getting a company issued laptop for on-call situations, the boss said - oh, no we don't do that, a requirement of your employment is to have a and b. So Wr explained the situation about dead computer and the boss said - aww, well, because we want to help out employees, we have this free loan program to assist employees in purchasing a computer.
He should totally not go that route and find a new job ASAP. This is a shit ass company.
A few things -
- Wr still needs a computer while being employed there
- this is a loan like any other institution would provide - his employment there really has little to do with it
- I think we all understand.
- this is equatable to the coal towns and coal mining companies, that also owned the food store, the clothing store, and the supplies store.
It's ass backwards that he would want to be further entrenched by going through his employer to get a loan for a tool he needs for his job.
When he could get the same type of loan by any 3rd party bank or outright purchase a laptop directly and not be beholden to the employer for anything at all.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender how have you not looked at Snipe-IT yet, we've been discussing it for at least 1 Year plus on this forum alone, and there is a live demo you can play with.
You don't even have to deploy yourself to test the system out.
Time - I just haven't given it any yet. Same goes with MeshCentral though that hasn't been a year plus.
Fair enough.
Did @WrCombs ever get those laptops from you, and did you give him guidance on what he was trying to do with them?
Nope - He found that his company will give him an interest free 12 month loan for a new laptop... currently I think he's working on that. Not that the laptop from me couldn't still be useful.
ugh. .
So the whole "I'm broke and bought the cheapest thing in the world for work" turned into "I'm broke but you'll help me finance a laptop!"
WTF. . . why is his job creating and offering loans?!
Apparently during his interview they asked - do you have a computer - yes - check
do you have internet access at home - yes - checkSo they didn't specifically tell him that a requirement of the job is that they must provide their own computer and internet access to provide after hours support.
So when he approached his boss about getting a company issued laptop for on-call situations, the boss said - oh, no we don't do that, a requirement of your employment is to have a and b. So Wr explained the situation about dead computer and the boss said - aww, well, because we want to help out employees, we have this free loan program to assist employees in purchasing a computer.
He should totally not go that route and find a new job ASAP. This is a shit ass company.
A few things -
- Wr still needs a computer while being employed there
- this is a loan like any other institution would provide - his employment there really has little to do with it
- I think we all understand.
- this is equatable to the coal towns and coal mining companies, that also owned the food store, the clothing store, and the supplies store.
It's ass backwards that he would want to be further entrenched by going through his employer to get a loan for a tool he needs for his job.
When he could get the same type of loan by any 3rd party bank or outright purchase a laptop directly and not be beholden to the employer for anything at all.
other than making the loan payment - what makes you think he'd be beholden?
the benefit to getting the loan from his employer is that it's interest free. that's huge.
Clearly he can't afford to drop $500-$1500 for a new laptop right now, so his choices would be - get a bank loan, or put on a CC and pay interest to those parties while he pays it off.
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Now - if he can get a free laptop, and it will work for his situation - that might be the best - then start saving money to buy a 'good' laptop in a year outright with that saved money.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender how have you not looked at Snipe-IT yet, we've been discussing it for at least 1 Year plus on this forum alone, and there is a live demo you can play with.
You don't even have to deploy yourself to test the system out.
Time - I just haven't given it any yet. Same goes with MeshCentral though that hasn't been a year plus.
Fair enough.
Did @WrCombs ever get those laptops from you, and did you give him guidance on what he was trying to do with them?
Nope - He found that his company will give him an interest free 12 month loan for a new laptop... currently I think he's working on that. Not that the laptop from me couldn't still be useful.
ugh. .
So the whole "I'm broke and bought the cheapest thing in the world for work" turned into "I'm broke but you'll help me finance a laptop!"
WTF. . . why is his job creating and offering loans?!
Apparently during his interview they asked - do you have a computer - yes - check
do you have internet access at home - yes - checkSo they didn't specifically tell him that a requirement of the job is that they must provide their own computer and internet access to provide after hours support.
So when he approached his boss about getting a company issued laptop for on-call situations, the boss said - oh, no we don't do that, a requirement of your employment is to have a and b. So Wr explained the situation about dead computer and the boss said - aww, well, because we want to help out employees, we have this free loan program to assist employees in purchasing a computer.
He should totally not go that route and find a new job ASAP. This is a shit ass company.
A few things -
- Wr still needs a computer while being employed there
- this is a loan like any other institution would provide - his employment there really has little to do with it
- I think we all understand.
- this is equatable to the coal towns and coal mining companies, that also owned the food store, the clothing store, and the supplies store.
It's ass backwards that he would want to be further entrenched by going through his employer to get a loan for a tool he needs for his job.
When he could get the same type of loan by any 3rd party bank or outright purchase a laptop directly and not be beholden to the employer for anything at all.
other than making the loan payment - what makes you think he'd be beholden?
the benefit to getting the loan from his employer is that it's interest free. that's huge.
Clearly he can't afford to drop $500-$1500 for a new laptop right now, so his choices would be - get a bank loan, or put on a CC and pay interest to those parties while he pays it off.
Or he goes a completely separate route as already discussed here, uses one of the laptops you're discarding for what he needs and doesn't have to spend a penny or feel beholden to his employer for this new laptop that he may get through them.
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And the issue I have most with this is the way this is stated.
interest free 12 month loan for a new laptopSo if he fails to pay this back in 12 months is there a fee or rate hike?
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The way I see it is, if a company employs you to do a job then they should provide the tools to be able to do that job, apart from certain cases when your self employed etc. Sounds like a bit of an ass of a company.
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@jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny How do you like FusionInventory?
It does the job. Keep in mind that it's not a stand-alone solution but a plugin & agent for GLPI. The GLPI + FI combination does with an agent much of what SW did / does agentless.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Poking around with OSTicket.
That thing is a hunk of shoot
We use it here.... not a fan
Several people here on ML performed an evaluation of it and all came to the same conclusion.
Yeah, it predates me and is still liked by the guy(s) that set it up... I managed to get GLPI and fusioninventory going for scanning and inventory / asset management but haven't been able to convince people to move ticketing there from OSTicket.
Beyond that, just updated our base W7 desktop / laptop image and uploaded it to FOG while fighting with windows updates on my W10 laptop.
GLPI looks interesting. I've never heard of it.
It looks like it could be decent, but needs more polish. In looking at the demo a lot of the operational steps are difficult to find and generally rough looking.
If GLPI had a check-in/check-out function like Snipe-IT I would still be using it.
I noticed that it didn't have that functionality in the Demo. Just a "set asset to <employee>".
There's a Reservation system that might offer what you're looking for in the check in / check out type workflow.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
And the issue I have most with this is the way this is stated.
interest free 12 month loan for a new laptopSo if he fails to pay this back in 12 months is there a fee or rate hike?
Probably automatic payroll deductions. One of my old places would offer this to employees, honestly just to help them keep up to date with tech and let them take advantage of our business pricing as opposed to paying retail.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
And the issue I have most with this is the way this is stated.
interest free 12 month loan for a new laptopSo if he fails to pay this back in 12 months is there a fee or rate hike?
Payroll deductions, I pay a percentage of the total amount. if I get a new job, they will take the remainder of what I owe out of my last check.
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Home chilling after taking the wife to the medical medicine center 2hr drive away.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender how have you not looked at Snipe-IT yet, we've been discussing it for at least 1 Year plus on this forum alone, and there is a live demo you can play with.
You don't even have to deploy yourself to test the system out.
Time - I just haven't given it any yet. Same goes with MeshCentral though that hasn't been a year plus.
Fair enough.
Did @WrCombs ever get those laptops from you, and did you give him guidance on what he was trying to do with them?
No, I talked to Dash in person at a family event, and explained the situation a little more thoroughly.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
And the issue I have most with this is the way this is stated.
interest free 12 month loan for a new laptopSo if he fails to pay this back in 12 months is there a fee or rate hike?
Payroll deductions, I pay a percentage of the total amount. if I get a new job, they will take the remainder of what I owe out of my last check.
So you are beholden to the company and they are in fact making withholdings against your paycheck so they can get paid first.
This is loan-shark 101. I get paid first, screw you needing food, rent money or literally anything else.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Dealing with Windows updates taking down sites.
what was happening? what wasn't/isn't connecting?
Terminals werent finding fileserver, after rolling back the windows update sites loaded.'
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I have seen places say - we'll give you training, i.e. we, the company, will pay for it, but then you have to stay with the company at least 12 months after training is over.
EMC does something like that.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Dealing with Windows updates taking down sites.
what was happening? what wasn't/isn't connecting?
Terminals werent finding fileserver, after rolling back the windows update sites loaded.'
apparently the Windows update caused issues with the NICs and terminals werent able to communicate.POS terminals talking via SMB to a fileserver?
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@notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Dealing with Windows updates taking down sites.
what was happening? what wasn't/isn't connecting?
Terminals werent finding fileserver, after rolling back the windows update sites loaded.'
apparently the Windows update caused issues with the NICs and terminals werent able to communicate.POS terminals talking via SMB to a fileserver?
correct.
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@notverypunny Ok thanks I understand.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Dealing with Windows updates taking down sites.
what was happening? what wasn't/isn't connecting?
Terminals werent finding fileserver, after rolling back the windows update sites loaded.'
apparently the Windows update caused issues with the NICs and terminals werent able to communicate.Which version of Windows?
