What Are You Doing Right Now
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Of course these comments are more meant to strike up a conversation on what kind of licensing a place like NTG should have, not a reflection upon Gene's current situation.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Had some fun with AT&T - We had not changed our service plan in more than 10 years.... We just came off the original iPhone 3gs Data plan we had.... Sigh,.. went from Unlimited Data to 6gb per month.
Our Smart phones went from $40 to 20, and the dumb phone went from $10 to $20,.. wow... all phones now at $20.. lame.
Also been looking over the NTG MS VolLic Site,.. can't seem to find Win10 to download... only Windows 7, Vista and XP options...
Perhaps NTG doesn't have any agreements that include windows 10 in them.
We do- All of us are (were) on Win10.. I last downloaded and installed it back in September at MangoCon
Other than a partner program giving you access to licenses, I don't see why NTG would need to purchase Windows 10 through Open License? Fairly small company, and as infrequently as MS makes new OSs, I don't understand it. Top that with the single greatest part (in my opinion) about Open licensing is the KMS key management - again, small company with no centralized AD (I think Scott said that NTG got rid of AD) to deploy KMS from so you loose that feature.
Sure you could use MAK keys, but why? OEM licenses should suit the company just fine - one exception - Windows images, but again size and more importantly, desperate locations, don't make image pushes that viable.
So what am I missing?
There is no path to Windows 10 except for OEM, not realistically. Open licensing and all of those things are not Windows 10 licenses, they are Windows 10 upgrade licenses only. OEM (or FRB) are still required regardless. And no one buys FRB. So for all intents and purposes, you always need OEM no matter what for Windows desktops.
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Yep, agreed.
So, in Gene's case I wonder, does his laptop have a Win10 OEM license or an attached free upgrade license so he doesn't have to worry about using the VL media, and instead just download the generic Win10 ISO from MS for his reinstall?
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@dashrender @scottalanmiller
In this case it was my signing into the NTG Vol Lic Service Center when I needed to be signing into the NTG Technet account.Simple issue to resolve.
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Upped our Comcast speed. Went from 25Mb/s to 200. Went from $69 a month to $87. Not bad
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Getting ready for a long day on the train.
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Fixing backups. Woooo!
Also - I'm after putting a VM Host on my machine at home to mess about with - I have 10 pro but it's an upgrade so Hyper-V doesn't work because MS is dumb. Debating whether to do a repair install of Win 10 to see if that fixes the issue, or to use a free hypervisor...opinions?
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@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Fixing backups. Woooo!
Also - I'm after putting a VM Host on my machine at home to mess about with - I have 10 pro but it's an upgrade so Hyper-V doesn't work because MS is dumb. Debating whether to do a repair install of Win 10 to see if that fixes the issue, or to use a free hypervisor...opinions?
Depends on your requirements. VirtualBox works just fine in most cases and even better than Hyper-V when it comes to things like USB pass-through. Never measured it, but I think the overall I/O performace and latency of Hyper-V on Win8/8.1/10 is just "smoother" (faster, low lag) compared to the same workload running in VirtualBox. Probably because Hyper-V is a type 1 hypervisor while VirtualBox is a type 2. But again: You probably won't notice that in most cases.
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@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Fixing backups. Woooo!
Also - I'm after putting a VM Host on my machine at home to mess about with - I have 10 pro but it's an upgrade so Hyper-V doesn't work because MS is dumb. Debating whether to do a repair install of Win 10 to see if that fixes the issue, or to use a free hypervisor...opinions?
Depends on your requirements. VirtualBox works just fine in most cases and even better than Hyper-V when it comes to things like USB pass-through. Never measured it, but I think the overall I/O performace and latency of Hyper-V on Win8/8.1/10 is just "smoother" (faster, low lag) compared to the same workload running in VirtualBox. Probably because Hyper-V is a type 1 hypervisor while VirtualBox is a type 2. But again: You probably won't notice that in most cases.
Just to spin up VM's for messing about/testing stuff mainly - partly to teach myself more stuff, partly because I get bored easily...So will be wanting to run Linux VMs as well as Microsoft VMs
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@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Fixing backups. Woooo!
Also - I'm after putting a VM Host on my machine at home to mess about with - I have 10 pro but it's an upgrade so Hyper-V doesn't work because MS is dumb. Debating whether to do a repair install of Win 10 to see if that fixes the issue, or to use a free hypervisor...opinions?
Depends on your requirements. VirtualBox works just fine in most cases and even better than Hyper-V when it comes to things like USB pass-through. Never measured it, but I think the overall I/O performace and latency of Hyper-V on Win8/8.1/10 is just "smoother" (faster, low lag) compared to the same workload running in VirtualBox. Probably because Hyper-V is a type 1 hypervisor while VirtualBox is a type 2. But again: You probably won't notice that in most cases.
Just to spin up VM's for messing about/testing stuff mainly - partly to teach myself more stuff, partly because I get bored easily...So will be wanting to run Linux VMs as well as Microsoft VMs
VirtualBox should do, really. Big plus is pass-through. With VirtualBox, you are able to just pass through a USB thumb drive and you will have full access to it, including things like partition tables. I'm using this whenever I need to do something complex to partitions on disks, sticks and SD cards: Fire up a Linux-VM, attach the storage device, start parted / gparted / fdisk / sfdisk / whatever, modify partitions and finally just detach the device. Works very well.
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@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Fixing backups. Woooo!
Also - I'm after putting a VM Host on my machine at home to mess about with - I have 10 pro but it's an upgrade so Hyper-V doesn't work because MS is dumb. Debating whether to do a repair install of Win 10 to see if that fixes the issue, or to use a free hypervisor...opinions?
Depends on your requirements. VirtualBox works just fine in most cases and even better than Hyper-V when it comes to things like USB pass-through. Never measured it, but I think the overall I/O performace and latency of Hyper-V on Win8/8.1/10 is just "smoother" (faster, low lag) compared to the same workload running in VirtualBox. Probably because Hyper-V is a type 1 hypervisor while VirtualBox is a type 2. But again: You probably won't notice that in most cases.
Just to spin up VM's for messing about/testing stuff mainly - partly to teach myself more stuff, partly because I get bored easily...So will be wanting to run Linux VMs as well as Microsoft VMs
VirtualBox should do, really. Big plus is pass-through. With VirtualBox, you are able to just pass through a USB thumb drive and you will have full access to it, including things like partition tables. I'm using this whenever I need to do something complex to partitions on disks, sticks and SD cards: Fire up a Linux-VM, attach the storage device, start parted / gparted / fdisk / sfdisk / whatever, modify partitions and finally just detach the device. Works very well.
Cheers dude, will get that setup when I get home later!
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@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Fixing backups. Woooo!
Also - I'm after putting a VM Host on my machine at home to mess about with - I have 10 pro but it's an upgrade so Hyper-V doesn't work because MS is dumb. Debating whether to do a repair install of Win 10 to see if that fixes the issue, or to use a free hypervisor...opinions?
Depends on your requirements. VirtualBox works just fine in most cases and even better than Hyper-V when it comes to things like USB pass-through. Never measured it, but I think the overall I/O performace and latency of Hyper-V on Win8/8.1/10 is just "smoother" (faster, low lag) compared to the same workload running in VirtualBox. Probably because Hyper-V is a type 1 hypervisor while VirtualBox is a type 2. But again: You probably won't notice that in most cases.
Just to spin up VM's for messing about/testing stuff mainly - partly to teach myself more stuff, partly because I get bored easily...So will be wanting to run Linux VMs as well as Microsoft VMs
VirtualBox should do, really. Big plus is pass-through. With VirtualBox, you are able to just pass through a USB thumb drive and you will have full access to it, including things like partition tables. I'm using this whenever I need to do something complex to partitions on disks, sticks and SD cards: Fire up a Linux-VM, attach the storage device, start parted / gparted / fdisk / sfdisk / whatever, modify partitions and finally just detach the device. Works very well.
Oh, BTW: Hyper-V knows how to pass through a local storage device too, but ... well, does not work in each and every case due to some restrictions.
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@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Fixing backups. Woooo!
Also - I'm after putting a VM Host on my machine at home to mess about with - I have 10 pro but it's an upgrade so Hyper-V doesn't work because MS is dumb. Debating whether to do a repair install of Win 10 to see if that fixes the issue, or to use a free hypervisor...opinions?
Depends on your requirements. VirtualBox works just fine in most cases and even better than Hyper-V when it comes to things like USB pass-through. Never measured it, but I think the overall I/O performace and latency of Hyper-V on Win8/8.1/10 is just "smoother" (faster, low lag) compared to the same workload running in VirtualBox. Probably because Hyper-V is a type 1 hypervisor while VirtualBox is a type 2. But again: You probably won't notice that in most cases.
Just to spin up VM's for messing about/testing stuff mainly - partly to teach myself more stuff, partly because I get bored easily...So will be wanting to run Linux VMs as well as Microsoft VMs
VirtualBox should do, really. Big plus is pass-through. With VirtualBox, you are able to just pass through a USB thumb drive and you will have full access to it, including things like partition tables. I'm using this whenever I need to do something complex to partitions on disks, sticks and SD cards: Fire up a Linux-VM, attach the storage device, start parted / gparted / fdisk / sfdisk / whatever, modify partitions and finally just detach the device. Works very well.
Oh, BTW: Hyper-V knows how to pass through a local storage device too, but ... well, does not work in each and every case due to some restrictions.
Yeah, I'm aware of Hyper-V's...quirks...
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@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NattNatt said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Fixing backups. Woooo!
Also - I'm after putting a VM Host on my machine at home to mess about with - I have 10 pro but it's an upgrade so Hyper-V doesn't work because MS is dumb. Debating whether to do a repair install of Win 10 to see if that fixes the issue, or to use a free hypervisor...opinions?
Depends on your requirements. VirtualBox works just fine in most cases and even better than Hyper-V when it comes to things like USB pass-through. Never measured it, but I think the overall I/O performace and latency of Hyper-V on Win8/8.1/10 is just "smoother" (faster, low lag) compared to the same workload running in VirtualBox. Probably because Hyper-V is a type 1 hypervisor while VirtualBox is a type 2. But again: You probably won't notice that in most cases.
Just to spin up VM's for messing about/testing stuff mainly - partly to teach myself more stuff, partly because I get bored easily...So will be wanting to run Linux VMs as well as Microsoft VMs
VirtualBox should do, really. Big plus is pass-through. With VirtualBox, you are able to just pass through a USB thumb drive and you will have full access to it, including things like partition tables. I'm using this whenever I need to do something complex to partitions on disks, sticks and SD cards: Fire up a Linux-VM, attach the storage device, start parted / gparted / fdisk / sfdisk / whatever, modify partitions and finally just detach the device. Works very well.
Cheers dude, will get that setup when I get home later!
Have fun
I'm using this for a few dev VMs where I need access to USB smartcard readers or USB webcams for example. Even works with very specialized devices like biometric smartcard readers (the ones from precisebiometrics.com for example)
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Howdy all y'all! What a rainy weekend we had this weekend!
Weather got rough, but we were fortunate enough to not take any serious damage from anything around here. 30 minutes west, a Walmart had the roof taken off, and down in south Georgia, a number of people were killed by various tornadoes.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Howdy all y'all! What a rainy weekend we had this weekend!
Weather got rough, but we were fortunate enough to not take any serious damage from anything around here. 30 minutes west, a Walmart had the roof taken off, and down in south Georgia, a number of people were killed by various tornadoes.
Glad to hear you made it through ok!
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@Minion-Queen said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Howdy all y'all! What a rainy weekend we had this weekend!
Weather got rough, but we were fortunate enough to not take any serious damage from anything around here. 30 minutes west, a Walmart had the roof taken off, and down in south Georgia, a number of people were killed by various tornadoes.
Glad to hear you made it through ok!
Thanks! Prayers going out to all those affected, though.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Howdy all y'all! What a rainy weekend we had this weekend!
Weather got rough, but we were fortunate enough to not take any serious damage from anything around here. 30 minutes west, a Walmart had the roof taken off, and down in south Georgia, a number of people were killed by various tornadoes.
Eesh. Glad you're okay.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Howdy all y'all! What a rainy weekend we had this weekend!
Weather got rough, but we were fortunate enough to not take any serious damage from anything around here. 30 minutes west, a Walmart had the roof taken off, and down in south Georgia, a number of people were killed by various tornadoes.
Glad to hear you safe,.. thoughts go to those who lost family/friends.
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NorEaster today from the sounds of it... we're not going to be hit that bad only 8-10".
