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    Water Closet
    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • FredtxF
      Fredtx @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller

      I've always used the ping command to troubleshoot latency, and view active spikes, and packet loss. The only time I really use Speedtest is when testing bandwidth. Tracert is another command I use for troubleshooting latency as I can easily show the ISP the issue is on their end, which most of the time it is.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Fredtx
        last edited by

        @Fredtx said in I can't even:

        I've always used the ping command to troubleshoot latency, and view active spikes, and packet loss.

        For anything ping/traceroute related, the tool you want is mtr not ping. It provides a much better picture of what you need to know if you use the right --order options.

        This gives you the standard loss, delay, etc., plus jitter: mtr 1.1.1.1 --order LSRDNABWVJMXI

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        But as @scottalanmiller said, you need to be specific about what you are wanting tested.

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        • notverypunnyN
          notverypunny
          last edited by

          I setup a self-hosted librespeed instance at my prev employer to deal with all the WFH internet foolishness. Then you know that you're testing a known quantity. I'd also managed to script something with their client-side cli and TRMM that would allow the team to remotely speed test without user knowledge or intervention.

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          • FredtxF
            Fredtx @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in I can't even:

            For anything ping/traceroute related, the tool you want is mtr not ping. It provides a much better picture of what you need to know if you use the right --order options.

            Nice. I never knew about that tool. I will have to check it out

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              Today a customer asked us to "return their software and CALs for a refund". The reason given? Because they plan to pirate the software instead so they don't want to have paid for it.

              I can't wait to hear what the vendor says to that logic for returning the software.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Customer: I don't know enough about computers to buy a server on my own, I need an IT firm to order it for me.

                Also Customer: I don't need to pay for IT services for installing my hypervisor, operating systems, backups, application or migrating data - I think that I can do that on my own.

                Analogy: I don't know enough to buy a car on my own, but I think that I can work on one without needing a mechanic.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller
                  Analogy: I crash car into a tree, blame mechanic.

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                  • dbeatoD
                    dbeato @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller All the time.

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                    • dbeatoD
                      dbeato @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller Wow

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Talking to a customer who tells us that they have a two year old server "so it is time to replace it." Um, what? Who replaces two year old hardware.

                        Hardware...

                        Intel 4th Gen Desktop CPU
                        8GB RAM
                        Spinning Rust
                        Windows 10

                        OMG, it's a decade old desktop that wasn't specc'd out to be anything like a server at all even ten years ago!

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                          Talking to a customer who tells us that they have a two year old server "so it is time to replace it." Um, what? Who replaces two year old hardware.

                          Hardware...

                          Intel 4th Gen Desktop CPU
                          8GB RAM
                          Spinning Rust
                          Windows 10

                          OMG, it's a decade old desktop that wasn't specc'd out to be anything like a server at all even ten years ago!

                          They are calling that a server? I can assume they are misusing the MS license then too.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @Obsolesce said in I can't even:

                            @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                            Talking to a customer who tells us that they have a two year old server "so it is time to replace it." Um, what? Who replaces two year old hardware.

                            Hardware...

                            Intel 4th Gen Desktop CPU
                            8GB RAM
                            Spinning Rust
                            Windows 10

                            OMG, it's a decade old desktop that wasn't specc'd out to be anything like a server at all even ten years ago!

                            They are calling that a server? I can assume they are misusing the MS license then too.

                            It's in Africa, so licenses aren't considered legal. Not that Africa is a single place, but the treatment of copyright law is pretty standard.

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                            • S
                              srsmith
                              last edited by

                              Good backups are just wasted money and not actually important, right?

                              Veeam is being used for backup - awesome! Veeam is good stuff. Slight issue is that it is running on a VM, to backup VMs on the same host, itself included. Not ideal, but with a good configuration backup, it will work. If something happens to the VM, install Veeam on the replacement, restore from the latest config backup, make adjustments if necessary, and move on.

                              Except...

                              • This same VM also runs other services that aren't related to backup functions
                              • The backups are stored on the same physical host
                              • ...on the same internal host datastore
                              • ...on a secondary virtual disk
                              • ...attached to the same VM

                              At least there is a backup copy job to another storage target, right?

                              • Target is a cheap Synology DS620slim at another site
                              • Storage pool is 6 x 2TB RAID 5 with spinning rust
                              • Frequently takes 2+ days for job to succeed, but fails more frequently than it succeeds
                              • Job omits the largest VM (file server), probably because someone said "the other file servers at the other locations are enough for the backup because of the DFS configuration"

                              What was the point in spending the money on Veeam, only to configure things in a way that ensures that you don't have a solid backup if something happens to the host or the virtual disk storing the backups?!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @srsmith
                                last edited by

                                @srsmith said in I can't even:

                                The backups are stored on the same physical host

                                To assist in these kinds of conversations with customers (or internal IT), I never allow people to call these backups. I say "whoa, there's no backup here, that's a file copy and nothing more, backups have a definition and this doesn't in any way meet it. We can't say we have a backup as at no point do we back anything up."

                                Not allowing people to say "backup" helps. As long as they are allowed to say the word, they will convince themselves and others that they are protected.

                                And trust me, when government agencies with backup requirements come to check, you don't want to have been using backup sloppily to mean something other than a true backup. I've had teams threatened with actual jail time for playing fast and loose with their use of the term when the SEC almost found out that they had intentionally avoided backups.

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                                • EddieJenningsE
                                  EddieJennings
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                                  This thread, https://access.redhat.com/discussions/669573, likely requires a Red Hat account to view, but it wins the necro post award.

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                                  The last relevant comment was in October 2011. Here's the latest comment nearly 12 years later 😛

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @EddieJennings
                                    last edited by

                                    @EddieJennings said in I can't even:

                                    This thread, https://access.redhat.com/discussions/669573, likely requires a Red Hat account to view, but it wins the necro post award.

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                                    The last relevant comment was in October 2011. Here's the latest comment nearly 12 years later 😛

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                                    You should log in and post this:

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