Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department
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@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I also tend to pass phones from me to my wife to the kids, so we keep using them for several years longer than most people do.
I think this is more common than you might think. It's getting even more so because of the higher and higher costs of phones.
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@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I also tend to pass phones from me to my wife to the kids, so we keep using them for several years longer than most people do.
I think this is more common than you might think. It's getting even more so because of the higher and higher costs of phones.
Aren't phones getting cheaper? Not a lot, just a little? Used to be like $900 for a top end phone, now you can get into them under $700.
But yeah, as phones are getting more and more ubiquitous for younger and younger kids, we don't want to be spending crazy amounts of money on them. Having phones last longer is a big deal. My kids have, thus far, after 10 years of owning tablets and like 5 years of owning phones, gone through exactly one battery in that time, and that was an original iPad that lasted forever as a hand-me-down and in the end it was useless and I don't remember if the battery was an issue or not, even it might have been okay.
Their tablets and phones, even after insane levels of use, get near original battery life still and some of them are crazy old, like two original iPad 2s, and an iPhone 5 that's been through five or six owners!
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@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I also tend to pass phones from me to my wife to the kids, so we keep using them for several years longer than most people do.
I think this is more common than you might think. It's getting even more so because of the higher and higher costs of phones.
Aren't phones getting cheaper? Not a lot, just a little? Used to be like $900 for a top end phone, now you can get into them under $700.
But yeah, as phones are getting more and more ubiquitous for younger and younger kids, we don't want to be spending crazy amounts of money on them. Having phones last longer is a big deal. My kids have, thus far, after 10 years of owning tablets and like 5 years of owning phones, gone through exactly one battery in that time, and that was an original iPad that lasted forever as a hand-me-down and in the end it was useless and I don't remember if the battery was an issue or not, even it might have been okay.
Their tablets and phones, even after insane levels of use, get near original battery life still and some of them are crazy old, like two original iPad 2s, and an iPhone 5 that's been through five or six owners!
did you watch a different Apple/Samsung event than me?
Sure huawei and xiaomi are out there, but Huawei is nearly impossible to find in the US, and I don't know anything about availability of xiaomi in the US... so they might be cheaper but if you can't buy them, does that really matter?
I'm only talking US here - granted a few of you have access to equipment outside the US, but overall, the rest of us don't.
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@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I also tend to pass phones from me to my wife to the kids, so we keep using them for several years longer than most people do.
I think this is more common than you might think. It's getting even more so because of the higher and higher costs of phones.
Aren't phones getting cheaper? Not a lot, just a little? Used to be like $900 for a top end phone, now you can get into them under $700.
But yeah, as phones are getting more and more ubiquitous for younger and younger kids, we don't want to be spending crazy amounts of money on them. Having phones last longer is a big deal. My kids have, thus far, after 10 years of owning tablets and like 5 years of owning phones, gone through exactly one battery in that time, and that was an original iPad that lasted forever as a hand-me-down and in the end it was useless and I don't remember if the battery was an issue or not, even it might have been okay.
Their tablets and phones, even after insane levels of use, get near original battery life still and some of them are crazy old, like two original iPad 2s, and an iPhone 5 that's been through five or six owners!
did you watch a different Apple/Samsung event than me?
Sure huawei and xiaomi are out there, but Huawei is nearly impossible to find in the US, and I don't know anything about availability of xiaomi in the US... so they might be cheaper but if you can't buy them, does that really matter?
I'm only talking US here - granted a few of you have access to equipment outside the US, but overall, the rest of us don't.
No you seen right, top end phones are still around 1k.
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@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
did you watch a different Apple/Samsung event than me?
Apple is super high cost, but unique. Samsung is good, but not great, and way overpriced because they own exclusively the US market.
But in general, even better phones than Samsung are less. You CAN pay more than top end, but why?
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@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
Sure huawei and xiaomi are out there, but Huawei is nearly impossible to find in the US, and I don't know anything about availability of xiaomi in the US... so they might be cheaper but if you can't buy them, does that really matter?
Xiaomi is very available. Huawei is a pain in the US but the most available phone world wide. And don't forget OnePlus which is higher end than Samsung for like $700.
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@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
Sure huawei and xiaomi are out there, but Huawei is nearly impossible to find in the US, and I don't know anything about availability of xiaomi in the US... so they might be cheaper but if you can't buy them, does that really matter?
Xiaomi is very available. Huawei is a pain in the US but the most available phone world wide. And don't forget OnePlus which is higher end than Samsung for like $700.
So those all used to be $1k?
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I know it isn't top of the line but I got a Pixel 3a XL and am very pleased with it. I got it for 400$ and it blows the pants off my 700-800$ phones.
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@Obsolesce said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
Sure huawei and xiaomi are out there, but Huawei is nearly impossible to find in the US, and I don't know anything about availability of xiaomi in the US... so they might be cheaper but if you can't buy them, does that really matter?
Xiaomi is very available. Huawei is a pain in the US but the most available phone world wide. And don't forget OnePlus which is higher end than Samsung for like $700.
So those all used to be $1k?
Nope, they release way cheaper. That's the point. The highest end phones aren't $1K. The highest marketed in the US phones are $1K, but that's not the same thing.
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@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I know it isn't top of the line but I got a Pixel 3a XL and am very pleased with it. I got it for 400$ and it blows the pants off my 700-800$ phones.
Of the same era, or are you talking about a 7-800 phone from a year or two or more ago?
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@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Obsolesce said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@scottalanmiller said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
Sure huawei and xiaomi are out there, but Huawei is nearly impossible to find in the US, and I don't know anything about availability of xiaomi in the US... so they might be cheaper but if you can't buy them, does that really matter?
Xiaomi is very available. Huawei is a pain in the US but the most available phone world wide. And don't forget OnePlus which is higher end than Samsung for like $700.
So those all used to be $1k?
Nope, they release way cheaper. That's the point. The highest end phones aren't $1K. The highest marketed in the US phones are $1K, but that's not the same thing.
Then the price isn't going down... for those phones it's either flat, or going up.
Hell, the Google Phones used to be noticeably cheaper.. now they are nearly as bad as Samsung and Apple.
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@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
Then the price isn't going down... for those phones it's either flat, or going up.
What makes you say that? Have you checked OnePlus, Huawei, Xiaomi, etc.?
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And the expectation is even more price drops as Xiaomi just opened their own fabs and are redesigning products without the huge licensing cost of ARM processors. Already some of their products (not their phones yet) the prices are plummeting as the CPU costs start dropping (why Xiaomi maintains their margins.)
The move from ARM to RISC-V is expected to really boost their market.
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I actually just purchased a HUAWEI Band 3 Pro, been wanting a smart watch for a while now and the price was right.
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@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I know it isn't top of the line but I got a Pixel 3a XL and am very pleased with it. I got it for 400$ and it blows the pants off my 700-800$ phones.
Of the same era, or are you talking about a 7-800 phone from a year or two or more ago?
A year or two ago. Although from some of the benchmarks I've seen it does decent again phones from its generation.
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@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I know it isn't top of the line but I got a Pixel 3a XL and am very pleased with it. I got it for 400$ and it blows the pants off my 700-800$ phones.
Of the same era, or are you talking about a 7-800 phone from a year or two or more ago?
A year or two ago. Although from some of the benchmarks I've seen it does decent again phones from its generation.
I would fully expect a current phone to trash a few years old phone... and a $7-800 few years old phone is still barely top of the line compared to the prices of Samsung/Apple (not saying the hardware wasn't matching/beating them.. I just know the price is still lower than those two, which makes me at minimum ask - where the specs of that 7-800 device the same or better than apple/samsung?)
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@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I know it isn't top of the line but I got a Pixel 3a XL and am very pleased with it. I got it for 400$ and it blows the pants off my 700-800$ phones.
Of the same era, or are you talking about a 7-800 phone from a year or two or more ago?
A year or two ago. Although from some of the benchmarks I've seen it does decent again phones from its generation.
I would fully expect a current phone to trash a few years old phone... and a $7-800 few years old phone is still barely top of the line compared to the prices of Samsung/Apple (not saying the hardware wasn't matching/beating them.. I just know the price is still lower than those two, which makes me at minimum ask - where the specs of that 7-800 device the same or better than apple/samsung?)
Yeah it was a top of the line Moto device.
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@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I know it isn't top of the line but I got a Pixel 3a XL and am very pleased with it. I got it for 400$ and it blows the pants off my 700-800$ phones.
Of the same era, or are you talking about a 7-800 phone from a year or two or more ago?
A year or two ago. Although from some of the benchmarks I've seen it does decent again phones from its generation.
I would fully expect a current phone to trash a few years old phone... and a $7-800 few years old phone is still barely top of the line compared to the prices of Samsung/Apple (not saying the hardware wasn't matching/beating them.. I just know the price is still lower than those two, which makes me at minimum ask - where the specs of that 7-800 device the same or better than apple/samsung?)
Yeah it was a top of the line Moto device.
At this point I'm just rambling... but that doesn't tell me anything - I know nothing about Moto's.. where they spec'ed the same as samsung top of the line at that time? did reviews basically say they performed the same?
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@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I know it isn't top of the line but I got a Pixel 3a XL and am very pleased with it. I got it for 400$ and it blows the pants off my 700-800$ phones.
Of the same era, or are you talking about a 7-800 phone from a year or two or more ago?
A year or two ago. Although from some of the benchmarks I've seen it does decent again phones from its generation.
I would fully expect a current phone to trash a few years old phone... and a $7-800 few years old phone is still barely top of the line compared to the prices of Samsung/Apple (not saying the hardware wasn't matching/beating them.. I just know the price is still lower than those two, which makes me at minimum ask - where the specs of that 7-800 device the same or better than apple/samsung?)
Yeah it was a top of the line Moto device.
At this point I'm just rambling... but that doesn't tell me anything - I know nothing about Moto's.. where they spec'ed the same as samsung top of the line at that time? did reviews basically say they performed the same?
Yes.
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@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@Dashrender said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
@coliver said in Introducing MeshCentral on SAMIT as a Remote Access and Support Tool for the SMB IT Department:
I know it isn't top of the line but I got a Pixel 3a XL and am very pleased with it. I got it for 400$ and it blows the pants off my 700-800$ phones.
Of the same era, or are you talking about a 7-800 phone from a year or two or more ago?
A year or two ago. Although from some of the benchmarks I've seen it does decent again phones from its generation.
I would fully expect a current phone to trash a few years old phone... and a $7-800 few years old phone is still barely top of the line compared to the prices of Samsung/Apple (not saying the hardware wasn't matching/beating them.. I just know the price is still lower than those two, which makes me at minimum ask - where the specs of that 7-800 device the same or better than apple/samsung?)
Yeah it was a top of the line Moto device.
If you care about keeping your data private, Moto is a NoGo! (They're owned by Lenovo)
