Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share
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@dustinb3403 said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Ah I see, he wants to back up everything to a file server, and then back up that file server to Site B.
Yes
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Think of using Veeam to back up Linux, or Unitrends to back up Windows. Do either of those seem weird? Yet one is Windows to Linux, the other is Linux to Windows. Nothing weird in the slightest.
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@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Where is the part you think might be weird?
Using Hyper-V to "copy" Linux files!
That's not weird. First because it's not, you are copying Hyper-V file(s). Second, because "copy" is "copy" regardless of which copy technology you are using.
Also, I think this "feels" weird because of false associations. Like feeling that Hyper-V is more tied to Windows than to Linux. But it is not. Hyper-V is a hypervisor, not an OS, and made by Microsoft, a Linux and UNIX vendor. Would it be weird to do the same thing with ESXi? KVM? Xen?
Hyper-V runs Linux equally well as Windows. It's not associated with one or the other. Same with Xen, or ESXi. They are just hypervisors, what workloads run on top of them is a separate thing.
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@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Think of using Veeam to back up Linux, or Unitrends to back up Windows. Do either of those seem weird? Yet one is Windows to Linux, the other is Linux to Windows. Nothing weird in the slightest.
Just thought there might be a Linux option that could do the same for $0.00
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@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Also, I think this "feels" weird because of false associations. Like feeling that Hyper-V is more tied to Windows than to Linux. But it is not. Hyper-V is a hypervisor, not an OS, and made by Microsoft, a Linux and UNIX vendor. Would it be weird to do the same thing with ESXi? KVM? Xen?
Hyper-V runs Linux equally well as Windows. It's not associated with one or the other. Same with Xen, or ESXi. They are just hypervisors, what workloads run on top of them is a separate thing.
I hear you, I think those days are long gone.
I don't think of hypervisors (Type1) in terms of Windows or Linux...I mean we run Windows on KVM!! -
@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Think of using Veeam to back up Linux, or Unitrends to back up Windows. Do either of those seem weird? Yet one is Windows to Linux, the other is Linux to Windows. Nothing weird in the slightest.
Just thought there might be a Linux option that could do the same for $0.00
From the Linux Foundation, I can't think of any solution that would be a Veeam or Unitrends replacement. But there are definitely backup solutions that are FOSS that can do this for free. UrBackup would do this without any complaint.
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@dustinb3403 said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Think of using Veeam to back up Linux, or Unitrends to back up Windows. Do either of those seem weird? Yet one is Windows to Linux, the other is Linux to Windows. Nothing weird in the slightest.
Just thought there might be a Linux option that could do the same for $0.00
From the Linux Foundation, I can't think of any solution that would be a Veeam or Unitrends replacement. But there are definitely backup solutions that are FOSS that can do this for free. UrBackup would do this without any complaint.
I meant replicating via the hypervisor.
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In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
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@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@dustinb3403 said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Think of using Veeam to back up Linux, or Unitrends to back up Windows. Do either of those seem weird? Yet one is Windows to Linux, the other is Linux to Windows. Nothing weird in the slightest.
Just thought there might be a Linux option that could do the same for $0.00
From the Linux Foundation, I can't think of any solution that would be a Veeam or Unitrends replacement. But there are definitely backup solutions that are FOSS that can do this for free. UrBackup would do this without any complaint.
I meant replicating via the hypervisor.
Nvm, I thought that said "I meant replicate the hypervisor" not "replicating VIA the hypervisor"
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@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Lets say you have 10 Fedora 28 (could be servers, workstations etc).
You back them up (via NFS) to a file share.
The file share is a vm running on Hyper-V.
You now use Hyper-V's built in replication to replicate from Site A to Site B.The above doesn't make much sense but at first glance it sounds good.
Flame suit is on!
Comment away!So you want to replicate backups (a backup repository on a Hyper-V VM) from Site A to Site B? Sure, you can replicate ANY Hyper-V VM from site to site.
But for what purpose?
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Hyper-V can already do this with Hyper-V Replica
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@obsolesce said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
So you want to replicate backups (a backup repository on a Hyper-V VM) from Site A to Site B? Sure, you can replicate ANY Hyper-V VM from site to site.
But for what purpose?
Purpose: replication, DR, offsite etc.
The question is whether this is a good tool to use?
FreeNAS is an option, it has built in replication. (Let me duck while I wait for @scottalanmiller FreeNAS response) -
@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@obsolesce said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
So you want to replicate backups (a backup repository on a Hyper-V VM) from Site A to Site B? Sure, you can replicate ANY Hyper-V VM from site to site.
But for what purpose?
Purpose: replication, DR, offsite etc.
The question is whether this is a good tool to use?
FreeNAS is an option, it has built in replication. (Let me duck while I wait for @scottalanmiller FreeNAS response)Hyper-V Replication works well. I've not had any replica issues ever. The only issues I've had was when site links were bad, the replication stops... but then you can either resume replication, or it starts fresh again. But it always works.
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@Obsolesce Where is your Site B, is it a co-lo?
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@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Think of using Veeam to back up Linux, or Unitrends to back up Windows. Do either of those seem weird? Yet one is Windows to Linux, the other is Linux to Windows. Nothing weird in the slightest.
Just thought there might be a Linux option that could do the same for $0.00
Hyper-V does it for zero dollars, too. But Linux can do it, sure. DRBD, RSYNC, etc.
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@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@Obsolesce Where is your Site B, is it a co-lo?
We have several buildings, one is next door, two are a couple blocks away. One used to be a mile away and over a MPLS.
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@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@dustinb3403 said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
Think of using Veeam to back up Linux, or Unitrends to back up Windows. Do either of those seem weird? Yet one is Windows to Linux, the other is Linux to Windows. Nothing weird in the slightest.
Just thought there might be a Linux option that could do the same for $0.00
From the Linux Foundation, I can't think of any solution that would be a Veeam or Unitrends replacement. But there are definitely backup solutions that are FOSS that can do this for free. UrBackup would do this without any complaint.
I meant replicating via the hypervisor.
Why do you want it replicated via the hypervisor? Seems like this is part of what you'd want to fix. I can see why you'd want this if you couldn't find a good solution, but it feels like this is bad in the grand scheme and only okay if there wasn't something better. But lots of better things.
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@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
Would that be a concern?It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.
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@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@obsolesce said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
So you want to replicate backups (a backup repository on a Hyper-V VM) from Site A to Site B? Sure, you can replicate ANY Hyper-V VM from site to site.
But for what purpose?
Purpose: replication, DR, offsite etc.
But none of those are specifically assisted by Hyper-V Replication. If anything, I think it makes it worse. Now I realize you've not mentioned alternatives, but we have. For the purpose of replication, DR, offsite, etc. I would avoid Hyper-V and Hyper-V Replication.
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@scottalanmiller said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
@fateknollogee said in Use Hyper-V to replicate Linux vm file share:
In the past (see google) there have been comments about Msft's implementation of NFS.
Would that be a concern?It's improved, but not applicable here. Your fileserver should be Fedora, not Windows. There should be no Microsoft NFS involved in what you have described.
My bad, I was over-thinking.
Yes, with a Fedora fileserver, NFS would be built-in.
