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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

      @dafyre said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

      @scottalanmiller said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

      @stuartjordan said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

      Do you use this on LAN or WAN for your backups?

      Only on the LAN right now.

      I have used the "WAN" function of UrBackup a little bit. It only discovers devices on the same subnet... so if you have devices on multiple subnets you'd have to use it.

      Can you make this English?

      Let's try this again:

      URBackup's discovery feature works only if the Server and the Client are in the same IP range. If they are not, then you will have to use the WAN features to get your device to back up to the URBackup server.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @dafyre
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        @dafyre this isn't related to the UrBackup server managing and moving the backups around (offsite storage for retention) though, correct?

        This is simply using server and client on different subnets.

        I suppose you could add a different repository to UrBackup as the retention location. I'd have to dig into it to see how that would work, I know you can use remote storage so long as you can mount them to the server.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @DustinB3403
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          @dustinb3403 said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

          @dafyre this isn't related to the UrBackup server managing and moving the backups around (offsite storage for retention) though, correct?

          Correct. This is only related to how the client was connecting to the server.

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          • Emad RE
            Emad R @scottalanmiller
            last edited by Emad R

            @scottalanmiller

            UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

            saltstack + robocopy + 7za

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @Emad R
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              @emad-r said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

              @scottalanmiller

              UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

              saltstack + robocopy + 7za

              How do you do incremental backups with change block tracking? That method doesn't do it. So you're doing full backups and copying full backups every time?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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                @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                @emad-r said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                @scottalanmiller

                UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

                saltstack + robocopy + 7za

                How do you do incremental backups with change block tracking? That method doesn't do it. So you're doing full backups and copying full backups every time?

                Exactly this. It is horrible to handle at any size.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @Obsolesce
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                  @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                  @emad-r said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                  @scottalanmiller

                  UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

                  saltstack + robocopy + 7za

                  How do you do incremental backups with change block tracking? That method doesn't do it. So you're doing full backups and copying full backups every time?

                  I can't answer for him because I have no idea how he's using it. But that does work if you're only copying data from the data volumes. That's pretty much what ReaR does, just replace 7za with tar.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                    @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                    @emad-r said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                    @scottalanmiller

                    UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

                    saltstack + robocopy + 7za

                    How do you do incremental backups with change block tracking? That method doesn't do it. So you're doing full backups and copying full backups every time?

                    UrBackup doesn't have CBT. Not many things do. You can buy it additionally, but it isn't part of UrBackup.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                      @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                      @emad-r said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                      @scottalanmiller

                      UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

                      saltstack + robocopy + 7za

                      How do you do incremental backups with change block tracking? That method doesn't do it. So you're doing full backups and copying full backups every time?

                      UrBackup doesn't have CBT. Not many things do. You can buy it additionally, but it isn't part of UrBackup.

                      It does, if you purchase it. 🙂

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @stacksofplates
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                        @stacksofplates said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                        @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                        @emad-r said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                        @scottalanmiller

                        UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

                        saltstack + robocopy + 7za

                        How do you do incremental backups with change block tracking? That method doesn't do it. So you're doing full backups and copying full backups every time?

                        I can't answer for him because I have no idea how he's using it. But that does work if you're only copying data from the data volumes. That's pretty much what ReaR does, just replace 7za with tar.

                        Same with rsnapshot. Except it uses hard links.

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                          Alex Sage @DustinB3403
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                          @dustinb3403 how much is it? Does it include support?

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Alex Sage
                            last edited by

                            @aaronstuder said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                            @dustinb3403 how much is it? Does it include support?

                            It's really cheap, like $17 IIRC.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by DustinB3403

                              Yeah it's $17USD/client.

                              https://www.urbackup.org/commercial.html

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @dustinb3403 said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                Yeah it's $17USD.

                                https://www.urbackup.org/commercial.html

                                Per client. Not correcting you, just pointing that out.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @stacksofplates
                                  last edited by

                                  @stacksofplates said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                  Yeah it's $17USD.

                                  https://www.urbackup.org/commercial.html

                                  Per client. Not correcting you, just pointing that out.

                                  Yeah I went back and edited my post as you posted.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller are you testing CBT with this client?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                      @scottalanmiller are you testing CBT with this client?

                                      No, mostly only need SQL backups, not system backups.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by Obsolesce

                                        @stacksofplates said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                        @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                        @emad-r said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                        @scottalanmiller

                                        UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

                                        saltstack + robocopy + 7za

                                        How do you do incremental backups with change block tracking? That method doesn't do it. So you're doing full backups and copying full backups every time?

                                        I can't answer for him because I have no idea how he's using it. But that does work if you're only copying data from the data volumes. That's pretty much what ReaR does, just replace 7za with tar.

                                        I use ReaR, and it does do incrementals. However, I only use it for a few one-off physical Linux systems for disaster recovery purposes.

                                        I like the way MBS (as how Microsoft defines as "Modern Backup Solutions") work. Most do CBT very well, like Veeam, SC-DPM, and other modern solutions.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                          @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                          @emad-r said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                          @scottalanmiller

                                          UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

                                          saltstack + robocopy + 7za

                                          How do you do incremental backups with change block tracking? That method doesn't do it. So you're doing full backups and copying full backups every time?

                                          I can't answer for him because I have no idea how he's using it. But that does work if you're only copying data from the data volumes. That's pretty much what ReaR does, just replace 7za with tar.

                                          I use ReaR, and it does do incrementals. However, I only use it for a few one-off physical Linux systems for disaster recovery purposes.

                                          I like the way MBS (as how Microsoft defines as "Modern Backup Solutions") work. Most do CBT very well, like Veeam's Free Endpoint, SC-DPM, and other modern solutions.

                                          Sure they're great. My point is if you're not doing system backups, it's kind of not worth it.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @stacksofplates
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                                            @stacksofplates said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                            @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                            @obsolesce said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                            @emad-r said in Backup Windows with UrBackup:

                                            @scottalanmiller

                                            UrBackup is too heavy for my taste, I tested it but the interface was too 1980s

                                            saltstack + robocopy + 7za

                                            How do you do incremental backups with change block tracking? That method doesn't do it. So you're doing full backups and copying full backups every time?

                                            I can't answer for him because I have no idea how he's using it. But that does work if you're only copying data from the data volumes. That's pretty much what ReaR does, just replace 7za with tar.

                                            I use ReaR, and it does do incrementals. However, I only use it for a few one-off physical Linux systems for disaster recovery purposes.

                                            I like the way MBS (as how Microsoft defines as "Modern Backup Solutions") work. Most do CBT very well, like Veeam's Free Endpoint, SC-DPM, and other modern solutions.

                                            My point is if you're not doing system backups, it's kind of not worth it.

                                            Yeah, for sure.

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