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    • Minion QueenM
      Minion Queen Banned @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

      @stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

      If so, what will you do about Office moving forward?

      We've never really needed that. I've not had it installed in a very long time.

      I am pretty sure I am the only one here who uses pretty much the full suite (not Access, why would anyone use that).

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @bbigford
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        @bbigford said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

        Man, it's insane how plagued you are with O365 issues. I've never had any clients or personally experienced that in various organizations. Not to say I haven't had any issues... PowerBI has been a pain in the ass.

        Some of our issues come from being so close to MS. We had MS staff do some work at some point and I think that that put us on some really unhealthy paths.

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        • WLS-ITGuyW
          WLS-ITGuy
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          We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen Banned @WLS-ITGuy
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            @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

            We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

            To be fair. We have done 100's of migrations and have LOTS of clients using it with little to no issues.

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            • WLS-ITGuyW
              WLS-ITGuy @Minion Queen
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              @minion-queen said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

              @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

              We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

              To be fair. We have done 100's of migrations and have LOTS of clients using it with little to no issues.

              Not cost effective for us. We are a school but don't fall under the free to use. So the discount we get for being a 501c3 for licensing (Server, Exchange, CALs) is cheaper every 3 years than the recurring cost of licensing through O365.

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              • Minion QueenM
                Minion Queen Banned @WLS-ITGuy
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                @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                @minion-queen said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                To be fair. We have done 100's of migrations and have LOTS of clients using it with little to no issues.

                Not cost effective for us. We are a school but don't fall under the free to use. So the discount we get for being a 501c3 for licensing (Server, Exchange, CALs) is cheaper every 3 years than the recurring cost of licensing through O365.

                Oh yeah that doesn't make any sense at all then.

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                • WLS-ITGuyW
                  WLS-ITGuy @Minion Queen
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                  @minion-queen said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                  @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                  @minion-queen said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                  @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                  We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                  To be fair. We have done 100's of migrations and have LOTS of clients using it with little to no issues.

                  Not cost effective for us. We are a school but don't fall under the free to use. So the discount we get for being a 501c3 for licensing (Server, Exchange, CALs) is cheaper every 3 years than the recurring cost of licensing through O365.

                  Oh yeah that doesn't make any sense at all then.

                  Yea, it is like $500 or something like that for a 3 year life cycle compared to $2200/year for O365. Now even if you figure in the cost of Veeam, VM Hosts, SAN, etc it still doesn't justify the switch. Especially when things like this happen.

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                  • CloudKnightC
                    CloudKnight @WLS-ITGuy
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                    @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                    We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                    Would be interesting to see if many people have moved away from 365, I haven't heard of many to be fair in the UK.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
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                      @stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                      @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                      We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                      Would be interesting to see if many people have moved away from 365, I haven't heard of many to be fair in the UK.

                      Well we just moved away 🙂

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                      • CloudKnightC
                        CloudKnight @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                        @stuartjordan said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                        @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                        We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                        Would be interesting to see if many people have moved away from 365, I haven't heard of many to be fair in the UK.

                        Well we just moved away 🙂

                        I think Zimbra is great, would love to see many more people move to it. Shame about this interface update in limbo though.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @WLS-ITGuy
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                          @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                          We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                          on-prem exchange... no reason for it whatsoever...

                          I'm willing to bet it's not up to date.

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                          • CloudKnightC
                            CloudKnight @Obsolesce
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                            @tim_g I agree most people don't need on-prem exchange no more, but I do think that once Microsoft have looked at the numbers and most people have moved to 365 they will up the prices, they won't keep the cost per user as low as it is for long, bet you they will hike that right up sooner or later.

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                            • WLS-ITGuyW
                              WLS-ITGuy @Obsolesce
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                              @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                              @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                              We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                              on-prem exchange... no reason for it whatsoever...

                              I'm willing to bet it's not up to date.

                              It is up to date. Also, cost effective is the reason. 3 year life cycle comparison $6600 vs $500. Who would think that hosted/O365 is the better option, EVER!?

                              Oh, and my shit doesn't disappear randomly every time MS decides to make some jacked up change to its system.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @WLS-ITGuy
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                                @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                                on-prem exchange... no reason for it whatsoever...

                                I'm willing to bet it's not up to date.

                                It is up to date. Also, cost effective is the reason. 3 year life cycle comparison $6600 vs $500. Who would think that hosted/O365 is the better option, EVER!?

                                Oh, and my shit doesn't disappear randomly every time MS decides to make some jacked up change to its system.

                                How many users and how much data?

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                                • WLS-ITGuyW
                                  WLS-ITGuy @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by WLS-ITGuy

                                  @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                  @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                  @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                  @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                  We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                                  on-prem exchange... no reason for it whatsoever...

                                  I'm willing to bet it's not up to date.

                                  It is up to date. Also, cost effective is the reason. 3 year life cycle comparison $6600 vs $500. Who would think that hosted/O365 is the better option, EVER!?

                                  Oh, and my shit doesn't disappear randomly every time MS decides to make some jacked up change to its system.

                                  How many users and how much data?

                                  160 active users and right now about 1.2TB Licensed for 251 users.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @WLS-ITGuy
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                                    @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                    @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                    @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                    @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                    @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                    We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                                    on-prem exchange... no reason for it whatsoever...

                                    I'm willing to bet it's not up to date.

                                    It is up to date. Also, cost effective is the reason. 3 year life cycle comparison $6600 vs $500. Who would think that hosted/O365 is the better option, EVER!?

                                    Oh, and my shit doesn't disappear randomly every time MS decides to make some jacked up change to its system.

                                    How many users and how much data?

                                    160 active users and right now about 1.2TB Licensed for 251 users.

                                    Exchange 2016? Free hardware? Electricity? Maintenance? Free SW upgrades? Free CAL upgrades? Does it include the Office Suite or does nobody use Office and just use your on-prem Exchange OWA?

                                    We NEVER had stuff disappear randomly, not sure what that's about, someone messing with their licensing maybe... we manage our own licensing though.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @WLS-ITGuy
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                                      @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                      So the discount we get for being a 501c3

                                      Just seen this...

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                        @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                        We NEVER had stuff disappear randomly, not sure what that's about, someone messing with their licensing maybe... we manage our own licensing though.

                                        So do we, that's often the issue. MS messes with it.

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                                        • WLS-ITGuyW
                                          WLS-ITGuy @Obsolesce
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                                          @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                          @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                          @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                          @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                          @tim_g said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                          @wls-itguy said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                          We had a corporate meeting yesterday and they keep suggesting that we move from our in house exchange system to O365. NO CHANCE IN HELL! For this exact reason.

                                          on-prem exchange... no reason for it whatsoever...

                                          I'm willing to bet it's not up to date.

                                          It is up to date. Also, cost effective is the reason. 3 year life cycle comparison $6600 vs $500. Who would think that hosted/O365 is the better option, EVER!?

                                          Oh, and my shit doesn't disappear randomly every time MS decides to make some jacked up change to its system.

                                          How many users and how much data?

                                          160 active users and right now about 1.2TB Licensed for 251 users.

                                          Exchange 2016? Free hardware? Electricity? Maintenance? Free SW upgrades? Free CAL upgrades? Does it include the Office Suite or does nobody use Office and just use your on-prem Exchange OWA?

                                          We NEVER had stuff disappear randomly, not sure what that's about, someone messing with their licensing maybe... we manage our own licensing though.

                                          Yes, exchange 2016. Sure there is all those costs but we have servers for other things on campus (File servers, door locking system, etc) so that is already a purchased cost. The digital footprint from the 30TB SAN isn't anything. We buy Office 365 University at $80/4 year subscription for the Faculty and Staff. Students can buy it on their own. And what I use in electricity with a 3 server cluster and a SAN compared to what was used 6 years ago when I got here is chump change.

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                                          • PSX_DefectorP
                                            PSX_Defector @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

                                            As I recall, your O365 accounts were tied to some AD sync server.

                                            This is all the fault of whoever set tings up and never properly disconnected stuff.

                                            Microsoft themselves set that up without permission.

                                            Let's say that I know that's not the case, for very specific reasons you should know already.

                                            MS never sets up your stuff. Especially with AD Sync, considering it has to be installed locally.

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