I was gonna write up a big thing about this, but there is a easy [moderated] way to handle this.

Put a switch between the modem and the firewall. Hang another firewall off the switch using the "new" IP. Since you don't plan on the two networks communicating, no point in making things convoluted in your config. That would be easy as hell.

And if you want to be able to talk to ether network locally, just jumper a cable between them and use some quick static routes to frame traffic.

No muss, no fuss.

@RAM. said:

@IRJ his name is Aragorn Jemima Stringham. He was born a Jemima's witness, and in his youth he would go door to do asking people if they had a moment to talk about their lord of flavor and encourage people to visit a meeting by handing out flyers called "the flap jack tower".

All of these facts are backed up by nothing.

Damn it dude, now I want pancakes.

Bastard.

Woo! I won. Won money at the casino, Staples sends me two color laser printers, got a new job for 10K more, and now a nice new cloud server!

Everything's coming up PSX!

@g.jacobse said:

@thanksajdotcom
That is a good point AJ - It's unlikely that any of us plan to 'derail' a conversation..

@Aaron-Studer said:

But they do it over and over again. I am remote, so I can't fix it

@thecreativeone91 said:

Where's the power trip? He's the boss. He gets to do what he wants. Sounds like you just have an issues with him being a boss or rather you want his position.

I believe I have mentioned this more than one to AJ.

Suck it up boy.

"Cloud" is such a freakin' buzzword now it's mostly impossible to define. And I work for a "cloud" company.

It's like people confounding what "broadband" means by defining it by speed. Broadband, as a term, came about because it uses a BROAD BAND of frequencies to transmit data, things like the higher frequencies used by ADSL that we can't hear but are transmitted over the wire.

@Minion-Queen said:

(you would not be able to get drink heavily sorry need someone with it to keep track of me).

F ** [moderated], I'm out!

@ajstringham said:

It was always dry for me.

If you RDP to it straight from the internet, no, not really.

If you VPN into the network, pull the gateway off the thing. It won't be able to get to the internet but will be seen in the local network.

@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

@psx_defector said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

Why does this have to be some big, personal thing?

Because you have called into question my integrity, implying shit that is not there.

And it really pisses me off.

Hmmmm... go back and read your posts. You made things up and attacked as your starting point. Why did you do that? Why are you so aggressive about MS making such a simple mistake?

Because you have done this shit in the past, over and over and over and over again.

You know I don't post all the time, and I really could care less about this issue because you have a hate boner for O365. But you constantly do this shit, make unfounded accusations, and they are always some variation of a conspiracy.

@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

Why does this have to be some big, personal thing?

Because you have called into question my integrity, implying shit that is not there.

And it really pisses me off.

@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

@psx_defector said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

I've never worked on an account that wasn't bought direct from Microsoft. I don't know where your logs are but they are there.

It's direct from MS. The logs aren't available to us. Does MS have secret logs? Very possibly. But I don't have access to them I don't think.

Then you don't have the correct permissions. That's all there is to it.

@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

@psx_defector said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

@psx_defector said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

Did you miss the line where I work with AAD on my personal shit? Perhaps I know more than you about O365, AAD, and Microsoft in general?

Working with it on your own stuff would not provide the kinds of information you were claiming. You would know things like "some issues and changes are logged here", but you could not know "that changes could not be made without logging."

Dude, are you stupid? EVERYTHING GETS LOGGED, it doesn't require a rocket scientist to know this shit.

So... you are then claiming that the logs were deleted? Whose the conspiracy theorist?

It's because your account is a vendor reseller most likely. I've never worked on an account that wasn't bought direct from Microsoft. I don't know where your logs are but they are there.

Hence why I was able to login to my personal account, open my AAD grouping, create the account, add the service, and show you the entry.

@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

@psx_defector said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

Did you miss the line where I work with AAD on my personal shit? Perhaps I know more than you about O365, AAD, and Microsoft in general?

Working with it on your own stuff would not provide the kinds of information you were claiming. You would know things like "some issues and changes are logged here", but you could not know "that changes could not be made without logging."

Dude, are you stupid? EVERYTHING GETS LOGGED, it doesn't require a rocket scientist to know this shit.

Again, basic info from O365 training. And knowledge of how it works. Plus I've had people claim this shit, hence I know where to go.

You are projecting and trying to gaslight me on shit you think you know. Knock it off.

Again, you seem to think I have magic internal knowledge.

Did you miss the line where I work with AAD on my personal shit? Perhaps I know more than you about O365, AAD, and Microsoft in general?

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Understanding-Office-365-identity-and-Azure-Active-Directory-06a189e7-5ec6-4af2-94bf-a22ea225a7a9

Your external documentation on the O365 and AAD integration. This is also given out in the O365 certification training, which I also possess.

Try again.

OK, let's put this shit to rest.

I NEVER said who I work for, be it whomever I work for now, my previous employers, etc. etc. etc. I know I let it loose a few times, but that was well after I left their employ, e.g. Big Red V. I never have or will use my internal knowledge of places to my advantage in public forums, because I know lots of people and have lots of internal knowledge of various processes and procedures.

My knowledge of the Microsoft ecosystem is my own, because I'm damn good at working with it and have lots of information. My personal lab is setup in Azure. I extend my personal environment with O365 vertical services including AAD. I use Sharepoint Online for development and learning purposes. So I don't have to work for anyone to know everything I need to know.

For all anyone knows, I might work for myself, or work for a vendor, or work for the government. But you will NEVER get an official "I work at blah". So you might have some IRL knowledge, but when I write as PSX_Defector, I speak only for myself. Never question my integrity or imply any official capacity again.

@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

@psx_defector said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

There will still be USP entries. Because AAD will still need to get something from the billing portal, portal.office.com, so something had to have been applied.

Again, what do you see in AAD? Because as my previous screenshot shows, it says who did what and exactly the stuff done. There will always be an entry,...

So this assessment must not be true. There are no entries. So whether MS makes changes that aren't reflected tehre, or lets us make chances that are not reflected there, nothing was reflected there. So the underlying premise that AAD will always tell us what has happened and that we can troubleshoot this ourselves is fundamentally incorrect. There was no data visible to us. Perhaps MS logs data that is visible only to you, I do not know.

Thinking about this on the drive home, since you have a partner account, it might be in another area.

Instead of going round and round with your non-stop conspiracy shit, I'm giving up. Given you didn't even know about AAD, I'm going with you don't know what you are doing. You don't have the right info in front of you and I'm not about to do your job.

You keep thinking MS is out to get ya.

@scottalanmiller said in Office 365 Email Gone After Forced Logoff:

Logs are empty for two days before the issue. So whatever MS did, was not logged in a way visible to us.

I posted on here at 9:20am, 12 minutes before the first log entry in AAD.

Microsoft targeted you for funsies, left no trace in AAD, and you are without Outlook?

Oh oh, it's magic!

So someone ganked the O365 partner account, which propagated to the ntg.co domain? That was the issue?

There will still be USP entries. Because AAD will still need to get something from the billing portal, portal.office.com, so something had to have been applied.

Again, what do you see in AAD? Because as my previous screenshot shows, it says who did what and exactly the stuff done. There will always be an entry, because something had to tell your domain that it no longer has Exchange. That feeds back into the portal.office.com site, removing the Outlook link. You can't nuke your service without it.