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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @NerdyDad
      last edited by

      @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

      @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

      @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

      @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

      @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

      @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

      Was a signal group ever started? I am in

      Yes it was/is...
      but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

      It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

      Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

      https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

      So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

      1. Signal
      2. Wire
      3. Telegram

      No love for Threema?

      I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

      Threema looks the best according to that chart.

      Where does it say it costs?

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      • NerdyDadN
        NerdyDad @Obsolesce
        last edited by

        @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

        @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

        @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

        @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

        @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

        @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

        @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

        Was a signal group ever started? I am in

        Yes it was/is...
        but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

        It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

        Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

        https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

        So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

        1. Signal
        2. Wire
        3. Telegram

        No love for Threema?

        I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

        Threema looks the best according to that chart.

        Where does it say it costs?

        0_1513614402319_Threema.PNG

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          This picture isn't as telling as I'd like.

          https://i.imgur.com/eDl3Y3m.png

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @NerdyDad
            last edited by

            @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

            @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

            @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

            @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

            @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

            @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

            @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

            @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

            Was a signal group ever started? I am in

            Yes it was/is...
            but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

            It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

            Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

            https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

            So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

            1. Signal
            2. Wire
            3. Telegram

            No love for Threema?

            I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

            Threema looks the best according to that chart.

            Where does it say it costs?

            0_1513614402319_Threema.PNG

            It's $3 one time per platform (android or iDevices) Not that big of deal in my opinion... but it does make me ask - how is Signal funded?

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

              @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

              @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

              @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

              @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

              @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

              @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

              Was a signal group ever started? I am in

              Yes it was/is...
              but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

              It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

              Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

              https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

              So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

              1. Signal
              2. Wire
              3. Telegram

              No love for Threema?

              I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

              Threema looks the best according to that chart.

              Where does it say it costs?

              You pay one time for the app. However threema is closed source and only audited by a security team they pick.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @IRJ
                last edited by

                @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

                @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                Yes it was/is...
                but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                1. Signal
                2. Wire
                3. Telegram

                No love for Threema?

                I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

                Threema looks the best according to that chart.

                Where does it say it costs?

                You pay one time for the app. However threema is closed source and only audited by a security team they pick.

                This really is the bigger deal.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce
                  last edited by

                  I see, that changes things.

                  I'd rather pay $3 for open source in a case like that.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                    Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                    Yes it was/is...
                    but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                    It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                    Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                    https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                    So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                    1. Signal
                    2. Wire
                    3. Telegram

                    No love for Threema?

                    I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

                    Threema looks the best according to that chart.

                    Where does it say it costs?

                    You pay one time for the app. However threema is closed source and only audited by a security team they pick.

                    This really is the bigger deal.

                    Same as not audited at all.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ
                      last edited by IRJ

                      Gizmodo says to avoid telegram. Encryption is turned off by default and weak when turned on.

                      https://gizmodo.com/the-best-and-worst-encrypted-messaging-apps-1782424449

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                        Gizmodo says to avoid telegram. Encryption is turned off by default and weak when turned on.

                        https://gizmodo.com/the-best-and-worst-encrypted-messaging-apps-1782424449

                        OMG run for the hills. Encryption is off by default.

                        FFS. If I am trying to find a super secret chat app, I don't care about defaults. And if stupid users are stupid, they deserve to have their shit intercepted.

                        Now that second bit is the issue if I care about a secure chat app.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          I use Telegram because it is convenient and multi-platform. I do not use it for security.

                          I do also like that, to my knowledge, I can hand out the user name I setup in Telegram (@sorvani fyi)and people will not obtain my cell#.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            I do also like that if I wanted an encrypted chat, it is there. Now the quality of that encryption is up for debate, as it is not using any kind of standard cipher library to everyone's understanding.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in Signal Group Chat:

                              I use Telegram because it is convenient and multi-platform. I do not use it for security.

                              I do also like that, to my knowledge, I can hand out the user name I setup in Telegram (@sorvani fyi)and people will not obtain my cell#.

                              Yeah, that's really big. A huge piece of security that makes Signal not very attractive to me. A key purpose of using stuff like this is not sharing phone numbers.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Signal Group Chat:

                                @jaredbusch said in Signal Group Chat:

                                I use Telegram because it is convenient and multi-platform. I do not use it for security.

                                I do also like that, to my knowledge, I can hand out the user name I setup in Telegram (@sorvani fyi)and people will not obtain my cell#.

                                Yeah, that's really big. A huge piece of security that makes Signal not very attractive to me. A key purpose of using stuff like this is not sharing phone numbers.

                                Agreed what the hell were the ting requiring that? And then not having a work around for not using them in the app?

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