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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Signal Group Chat:

      @stacksofplates said in Signal Group Chat:

      Both of course require hacking. How do you intercept a 2FA code without hacking?

      By getting the SIM card, being assigned the number, or being in a place like where I worked that all calls and texts going through a third party that reads them first.

      This is an irrelevant issue. Anyone working in such a place that needs to make this type of verification knows that it cannot be done while at work.

      This is also an exception that affects such an insignificant amount of people that it basically does not exist.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ
        last edited by

        Was a signal group ever started? I am in

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        • bigbearB
          bigbear @IRJ
          last edited by bigbear

          @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

          Was a signal group ever started? I am in

          The Telegram app was just way better

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @IRJ
            last edited by

            @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

            Was a signal group ever started? I am in

            Yes it was/is...
            but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

            It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

              @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

              Was a signal group ever started? I am in

              Yes it was/is...
              but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

              It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

              Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

              https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad @IRJ
                last edited by

                @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                Yes it was/is...
                but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                1. Signal
                2. Wire
                3. Telegram
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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @NerdyDad
                  last edited by

                  @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                  @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                  @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                  @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                  Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                  Yes it was/is...
                  but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                  It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                  Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                  https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                  So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                  1. Signal
                  2. Wire
                  3. Telegram

                  No love for Threema?

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                  • NerdyDadN
                    NerdyDad @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                    @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                    Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                    Yes it was/is...
                    but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                    It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                    Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                    https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                    So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                    1. Signal
                    2. Wire
                    3. Telegram

                    No love for Threema?

                    I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @bigbear
                      last edited by

                      @bigbear said in Signal Group Chat:

                      @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                      Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                      The Telegram app was just way better

                      What's the difference? I haven't looked at telegram... actually I think i looked briefly a few months ago and decided that Viber did more and that it wasn't worth switching. Then now recently I looked at Signal and it seems like the same as Viber, but secure.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @NerdyDad
                        last edited by

                        @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                        @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                        @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                        @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                        @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                        @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                        Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                        Yes it was/is...
                        but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                        It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                        Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                        https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                        So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                        1. Signal
                        2. Wire
                        3. Telegram

                        No love for Threema?

                        I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

                        Threema looks the best according to that chart.

                        Where does it say it costs?

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                        • NerdyDadN
                          NerdyDad @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

                          @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                          @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                          @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                          @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                          @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                          @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                          Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                          Yes it was/is...
                          but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                          It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                          Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                          https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                          So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                          1. Signal
                          2. Wire
                          3. Telegram

                          No love for Threema?

                          I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

                          Threema looks the best according to that chart.

                          Where does it say it costs?

                          0_1513614402319_Threema.PNG

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            This picture isn't as telling as I'd like.

                            https://i.imgur.com/eDl3Y3m.png

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @NerdyDad
                              last edited by

                              @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                              @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

                              @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                              @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                              @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                              @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                              @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                              @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                              Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                              Yes it was/is...
                              but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                              It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                              Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                              https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                              So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                              1. Signal
                              2. Wire
                              3. Telegram

                              No love for Threema?

                              I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

                              Threema looks the best according to that chart.

                              Where does it say it costs?

                              0_1513614402319_Threema.PNG

                              It's $3 one time per platform (android or iDevices) Not that big of deal in my opinion... but it does make me ask - how is Signal funded?

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

                                @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                                @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                                @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                                @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                                @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                                @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                                Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                                Yes it was/is...
                                but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                                It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                                Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                                https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                                So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                                1. Signal
                                2. Wire
                                3. Telegram

                                No love for Threema?

                                I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

                                Threema looks the best according to that chart.

                                Where does it say it costs?

                                You pay one time for the app. However threema is closed source and only audited by a security team they pick.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @IRJ
                                  last edited by

                                  @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                                  @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

                                  @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                                  @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                                  @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                                  @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                                  @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                                  @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                                  Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                                  Yes it was/is...
                                  but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                                  It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                                  Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                                  https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                                  So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                                  1. Signal
                                  2. Wire
                                  3. Telegram

                                  No love for Threema?

                                  I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

                                  Threema looks the best according to that chart.

                                  Where does it say it costs?

                                  You pay one time for the app. However threema is closed source and only audited by a security team they pick.

                                  This really is the bigger deal.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    I see, that changes things.

                                    I'd rather pay $3 for open source in a case like that.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                                      @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                                      @tim_g said in Signal Group Chat:

                                      @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                                      @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                                      @nerdydad said in Signal Group Chat:

                                      @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                                      @dashrender said in Signal Group Chat:

                                      @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                                      Was a signal group ever started? I am in

                                      Yes it was/is...
                                      but as mentioned, the Telegram client is significantly better at this time.

                                      It was also noted, anyone added to a group in Signal, all members received all other members phone numbers.

                                      Interesting comparison of secure messaging apps..

                                      https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

                                      So, based on that table, my preferences of messengers would be:

                                      1. Signal
                                      2. Wire
                                      3. Telegram

                                      No love for Threema?

                                      I'm cheap. I don't like having to pay for stuff.

                                      Threema looks the best according to that chart.

                                      Where does it say it costs?

                                      You pay one time for the app. However threema is closed source and only audited by a security team they pick.

                                      This really is the bigger deal.

                                      Same as not audited at all.

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ
                                        last edited by IRJ

                                        Gizmodo says to avoid telegram. Encryption is turned off by default and weak when turned on.

                                        https://gizmodo.com/the-best-and-worst-encrypted-messaging-apps-1782424449

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @IRJ
                                          last edited by

                                          @irj said in Signal Group Chat:

                                          Gizmodo says to avoid telegram. Encryption is turned off by default and weak when turned on.

                                          https://gizmodo.com/the-best-and-worst-encrypted-messaging-apps-1782424449

                                          OMG run for the hills. Encryption is off by default.

                                          FFS. If I am trying to find a super secret chat app, I don't care about defaults. And if stupid users are stupid, they deserve to have their shit intercepted.

                                          Now that second bit is the issue if I care about a secure chat app.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            I use Telegram because it is convenient and multi-platform. I do not use it for security.

                                            I do also like that, to my knowledge, I can hand out the user name I setup in Telegram (@sorvani fyi)and people will not obtain my cell#.

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