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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

      @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

      @dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

      @openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

      @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

      Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.

      Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.

      Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.

      And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents

      Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.

      Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.

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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

        @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

        @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

        @dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

        @openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

        @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

        Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.

        Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.

        Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.

        And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents

        Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.

        Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.

        I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @black3dynamite
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          @black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

          @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

          @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

          @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

          @dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

          @openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

          @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

          Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.

          Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.

          Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.

          And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents

          Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.

          Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.

          I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.

          What do you mean? Granted Windows offline often fails, but how is it in theory different?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

            @black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

            @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

            @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

            @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

            @dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

            @openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

            @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

            Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.

            Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.

            Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.

            And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents

            Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.

            Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.

            I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.

            What do you mean? Granted Windows offline often fails, but how is it in theory different?

            One was in theory designed to work, and one was not 🙂

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @Dashrender
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              @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

              @black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

              @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

              @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

              @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

              @dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

              @openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

              @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

              Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.

              Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.

              Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.

              And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents

              Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.

              Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.

              I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.

              What do you mean? Granted Windows offline often fails, but how is it in theory different?

              Windows caches data in C:\Windows\CSC instead of keeping the data on C:\Users\users1.
              With Nextcloud, your data is always in C:\Users\users1\Nextcloud but then data is sync back to the server.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                  Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.

                  That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                    last edited by

                    @black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                    Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.

                    That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.

                    They are trying.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @black3dynamite
                      last edited by

                      @black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                      Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.

                      That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.

                      If you manually change your user folders to a one drive locaiton windows will tell you it cannot undo it also.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @black3dynamite
                        last edited by

                        @black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                        @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                        @black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                        @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                        @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                        @dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                        @openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                        @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                        Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.

                        Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.

                        Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.

                        And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents

                        Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.

                        Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.

                        I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.

                        What do you mean? Granted Windows offline often fails, but how is it in theory different?

                        Windows caches data in C:\Windows\CSC instead of keeping the data on C:\Users\users1.
                        With Nextcloud, your data is always in C:\Users\users1\Nextcloud but then data is sync back to the server.

                        and?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                          Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.

                          Sadly, this is so true.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                            @black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                            Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.

                            That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.

                            If you manually change your user folders to a one drive locaiton windows will tell you it cannot undo it also.

                            oh that sucks!

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                              @jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                              @black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                              Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.

                              That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.

                              If you manually change your user folders to a one drive locaiton windows will tell you it cannot undo it also.

                              oh that sucks!

                              Well if that is your choice of user file sync solutions, that is not a problem.

                              because you will only ever bee adding it toa newly imaged machine.

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                              • openitO
                                openit
                                last edited by

                                That's nice information. What software you people are using for this purpose ? are there any free/open source options ?

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @openit
                                  last edited by

                                  @openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                                  That's nice information. What software you people are using for this purpose ? are there any free/open source options ?

                                  I use Clonezilla to create my images. But you could setup a Fog server if you wanted.

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                                  • dbeatoD
                                    dbeato @openit
                                    last edited by

                                    @openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                                    That's nice information. What software you people are using for this purpose ? are there any free/open source options ?

                                    For imaging or backup?

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @openit
                                      last edited by

                                      @openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                                      That's nice information. What software you people are using for this purpose ? are there any free/open source options ?

                                      WDS is what we use. We're looking to move over the SCCM and MDT thought.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        To throw a wrench into this conversation.

                                        UrBackup is a backup solution that can be run constantly and allows you to restore the backup or any part of it to different hardware.

                                        So while it falls in the "Backup" category it also blurs the lines a bit.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @dustinb3403 said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                                          To throw a wrench into this conversation.

                                          UrBackup is a backup solution that can be run constantly and allows you to restore the backup or any part of it to different hardware.

                                          So while it falls in the "Backup" category it also blurs the lines a bit.

                                          Most modern backup solutions can do this.

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                                          • dbeatoD
                                            dbeato @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @dustinb3403 said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:

                                            To throw a wrench into this conversation.

                                            UrBackup is a backup solution that can be run constantly and allows you to restore the backup or any part of it to different hardware.

                                            So while it falls in the "Backup" category it also blurs the lines a bit.

                                            I mentioned before so it is worth looking at it 🙂

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