What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?
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@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.
Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.
Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.
And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents
This is why we stress "Use your home drive!". Most desktop don't have RAID, and user devices can go sour "just because". New drive, image computer, done. The users home drive (and other shares) are automatically mapped when they log in.
No need to transfer documents and downloads and such.
In the cases you do, you tell them to grab their stuff and put it in their home drive.
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@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.
Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.
Right, so what I was referring to there was the making of a "Golden Image" where we have a pristine starting point from which we can rebuild a fresh machine very quickly (often about half an hour.) This image would need to be combined with a script or RMM or something (SS is designed to do this in the future) to take that Golden Image from bare to complete in a few minutes time (about half of the total 30 minutes, in theory.)
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@dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.
Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.
Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.
Right, you either need to take backups of user data from the end user's machine and/or you need to store user data centrally so that you never have to deal with it on the end user's machine.
I have all of my data in NextCloud, for example. So all I need to do is restore NextCloud and pop in the password and my end user data is restored.
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@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.
Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.
Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.
And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents
Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.
Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.
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@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.
Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.
Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.
And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents
Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.
Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.
I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.
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@black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.
Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.
Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.
And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents
Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.
Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.
I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.
What do you mean? Granted Windows offline often fails, but how is it in theory different?
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@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.
Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.
Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.
And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents
Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.
Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.
I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.
What do you mean? Granted Windows offline often fails, but how is it in theory different?
One was in theory designed to work, and one was not
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@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.
Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.
Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.
And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents
Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.
Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.
I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.
What do you mean? Granted Windows offline often fails, but how is it in theory different?
Windows caches data in C:\Windows\CSC instead of keeping the data on C:\Users\users1.
With Nextcloud, your data is always in C:\Users\users1\Nextcloud but then data is sync back to the server. -
Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.
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@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.
That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.
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@black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.
That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.
They are trying.
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@black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.
That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.
If you manually change your user folders to a one drive locaiton windows will tell you it cannot undo it also.
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@black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@dbeato said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Corning and imaging are two totally different things as the others have said. You need to define what you actually want to do here more clearly.
Okay. I believe I want to know more about Imaging. Actually the curiosity to know about Imaging arise from my previous post, where @scottalanmiller mentioned "Imaging should take around thirty minutes and, in reality, we are often getting that number lower and lower." It was regarding restoring the system when it is not working properly.
Yes which is fine, imaging is about restoring or setting up a system to an initial state where all the applications are installed and activated and ready to be used. It doesn't restore however the user's information.
And that is the big difference in a nutshell. User and fix their computer, you apply fresh image and connect user documents
Right, the thing to remember here - the desktop PC should have zero data on it. All data should be saved/synced to some place else so it can be accessed from a newly deployed image.
Zero data that matters, at least. With something like DropBox or NextCloud, we can have data on the machine, but it is always syncing to the server so that we can work with local files, but they are always stored on the server.
I always like that approach compare to how Windows folder redirection with offline works.
What do you mean? Granted Windows offline often fails, but how is it in theory different?
Windows caches data in C:\Windows\CSC instead of keeping the data on C:\Users\users1.
With Nextcloud, your data is always in C:\Users\users1\Nextcloud but then data is sync back to the server.and?
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@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.
Sadly, this is so true.
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@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.
That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.
If you manually change your user folders to a one drive locaiton windows will tell you it cannot undo it also.
oh that sucks!
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@dashrender said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@jaredbusch said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@black3dynamite said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
@scottalanmiller said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
Windows also has that "I don't feel like it" detection. So many ways that it looks and decides to not sync data, for no reason.
That makes me wonder why they're not replacing folder redirection using offline files with OneDrive instead.
If you manually change your user folders to a one drive locaiton windows will tell you it cannot undo it also.
oh that sucks!
Well if that is your choice of user file sync solutions, that is not a problem.
because you will only ever bee adding it toa newly imaged machine.
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That's nice information. What software you people are using for this purpose ? are there any free/open source options ?
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@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
That's nice information. What software you people are using for this purpose ? are there any free/open source options ?
I use Clonezilla to create my images. But you could setup a Fog server if you wanted.
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@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
That's nice information. What software you people are using for this purpose ? are there any free/open source options ?
For imaging or backup?
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@openit said in What exactly imaging software, any open source or free options ?:
That's nice information. What software you people are using for this purpose ? are there any free/open source options ?
WDS is what we use. We're looking to move over the SCCM and MDT thought.
