I am going to start an ISP
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@jt1001001 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@NerdyDad Check and see if Cogent can come to your area. They have been very helpful with our Internet setup (we have an AS number and still had to pry-out of Verizon's hands our owned IP addresses). Also if Telia can get out there (have a PoP in Dallas) they have dirt cheap Tier-1 bandwidth. Wasn't someone on here doing a fiber mapping site as well that you could check?
Tier 2 and Tier 1 ISPs are what you'd be looking at. If you have any datacenters or large business/school campuses near you they are probably being serviced by an ISP in one of these tiers. Definitely worth asking them who they go through.
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@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@NerdyDad Keep us posted on how this goes. I'm actually really interested in this. (Not knowledgeable whatsoever but interested!)
Actually, one thing that I am really struggling with is a name for this company. Anybody have any ideas?
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@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@NerdyDad Keep us posted on how this goes. I'm actually really interested in this. (Not knowledgeable whatsoever but interested!)
Actually, one thing that I am really struggling with is a name for this company. Anybody have any ideas?
NerdyDad's Internets.......
Sorry, @computering's bad influence
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@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@NerdyDad Keep us posted on how this goes. I'm actually really interested in this. (Not knowledgeable whatsoever but interested!)
Actually, one thing that I am really struggling with is a name for this company. Anybody have any ideas?
Something professional that is also probably a pun on what you do.
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wispdojo?
I will see myself out, again
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Big Bears Wireless?
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Make the client buy their end point. Don't even give them a choice. That way when another vendor comes in to do work, and just so happens to remove it.. you aren't blamed for no service for two months..
Please,.. don't ask me about it... I just... wow...
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@gjacobse for you...
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@gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:
Make the client buy their end point. Don't even give them a choice. That way when another vendor comes in to do work, and just so happens to remove it.. you aren't blamed for no service for two months..
Please,.. don't ask me about it... I just... wow...
That's been a discussion point for me and the family as well. Making them buying the product makes them responsible for taking care of their equipment. However, the price point of the CPE is kind of a turn off in comparison to the monthly prices. Therefore, we've considered payment plans for the CPE for 1 year. Want to disconnect service? Well now, the rest of the money for the CPE is due.
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@gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:
Make the client buy their end point. Don't even give them a choice. That way when another vendor comes in to do work, and just so happens to remove it.. you aren't blamed for no service for two months..
Please,.. don't ask me about it... I just... wow...
I'm of the opposite mind. "Rent" them the equipment. It won't often go bad so the monthly rental price will offset the few units that go down to lightning strikes. If units do go bad it won't be hard to just replace it and continue with the monthly rental.
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The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.
@NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.
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@scottalanmiller @coliver @NerdyDad
well, the reason behind the suggestion is that we just had CPE 'vanish' and things not work,.. so where is the CPE? Who removed it? and Where is it now?
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@gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:
@scottalanmiller @coliver @NerdyDad
well, the reason behind the suggestion is that we just had CPE 'vanish' and things not work,.. so where is the CPE? Who removed it? and Where is it now?
Pictures would be needed after each install.
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@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:
@scottalanmiller @coliver @NerdyDad
well, the reason behind the suggestion is that we just had CPE 'vanish' and things not work,.. so where is the CPE? Who removed it? and Where is it now?
Pictures would be needed after each install.
agreed!
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@gjacobse said in I am going to start an ISP:
@scottalanmiller @coliver @NerdyDad
well, the reason behind the suggestion is that we just had CPE 'vanish' and things not work,.. so where is the CPE? Who removed it? and Where is it now?
We have all that responsibility on the customer in our terms of service. Similar to what would happen if a Time Warner or DirecTV contract.
Back in my rural WISP days we had several blow away in a storm. A couple antennas were never recovered. That was back when the CPE was $2,000 a pop for a 2mb to 10mb link.
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@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.
@NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.
In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.
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@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.
@NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.
In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.
Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.
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@coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.
@NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.
In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.
Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.
Looking at offering:
Residential Speed (Mbps) Monthly Fee (Level 1) 5/1 $30 (Level 2) 10/2 $60 (Level 3) 25/5 $125 I might have to raise them a little more because I am considering installing taxes and fees into the price and advertising the total price instead of the other guys that advertise their price and then add on taxes and fees.
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@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.
@NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.
In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.
Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.
Looking at offering:
Residential Speed (Mbps) Monthly Fee (Level 1) 5/1 $30 (Level 2) 10/2 $60 (Level 3) 25/5 $125 I might have to raise them a little more because I am considering installing taxes and fees into the price and advertising the total price instead of the other guys that advertise their price and then add on taxes and fees.
Have you done any investigating on how much your bandwidth will actually cost?
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@coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@coliver said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
The CPE units from UBNT are so cheap now you could just call it an install/setup fee and still rent/own the equipment.
@NerdyDad I am curious what speeds and prices the market will bare down in your area.
In town, I'm getting 80/10, but that is on cable internet.
Sounds like 10/5 would be a killer offering for your clients.
Looking at offering:
Residential Speed (Mbps) Monthly Fee (Level 1) 5/1 $30 (Level 2) 10/2 $60 (Level 3) 25/5 $125 I might have to raise them a little more because I am considering installing taxes and fees into the price and advertising the total price instead of the other guys that advertise their price and then add on taxes and fees.
Have you done any investigating on how much your bandwidth will actually cost?
Not yet. I've heard from others to expect $1/Mb on the first go around, so I'd be looking at about $1k+/month on just bandwidth with a potential 3-year agreement.
