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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      I would think that you could see that things are getting worse, in one way or another. An email that rubs you the wrong way, a quip, extended hours etc etc.

      Sure I suppose that equates to the water getting hotter over a period of time.

      This is probably an issue that also includes the sunk cost fallacy. Maybe the frog likes the hotter water, until it was too late.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

        I would think that you could see that things are getting worse, in one way or another. An email that rubs you the wrong way, a quip, extended hours etc etc.

        Those things happen during normal times, though, they don't indicate a gradual slip towards a lower state.

        In physics terms, it's like the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle... particles dance around and you can't tell from just one position measurement if the particle has moved or not, you need a trend of movements to know and no single movement would make you realize that you need to take more measurements or track them.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Sure but the first leads to the latter.

          If you're getting "WTF emails" regularly or even semi-occasionally that is the water getting hotter.

          The events trigger the temperature change in the water. It just occurs so slowly that the frog sits there, not really noticing because it's become normal to receive a "WTF email" over something.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said

            The term comes from the fact that if you drop a frog into boiling water, it knows that it is boiling and jumps out instantly. But if you put a frog into luke water and warm it up slowly over time, the frog doesn't notice the changes and will boil alive, which is bad.

            So is dropping a frog into boiling water.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22
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              My entire network

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                @wirestyle22 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                My entire network

                is? . . .

                You didn't finish that thought.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                  @DustinB3403 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                  My entire network

                  is? . . .

                  You didn't finish that thought.

                  a frog in boiling water

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                    My entire network

                    is? . . .

                    You didn't finish that thought.

                    a frog in boiling water

                    So slowly cooking.

                    Have you tried "turning the heat off" ?

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                    • NicN
                      Nic
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                      To debunk the frog story a bit, in the experiment where they sat in the slowly boiling water, they were decorticated first. So the only frog that stays in water that boils is one with brain damage 🙂

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                        @DustinB3403 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                        My entire network

                        is? . . .

                        You didn't finish that thought.

                        a frog in boiling water

                        So slowly cooking.

                        Have you tried "turning the heat off" ?

                        I'm in the process of walking away from the oven and getting a new apartment

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Nic
                          last edited by DustinB3403

                          @Nic said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                          To debunk the frog story a bit, in the experiment where they sat in the slowly boiling water, they were decorticated first. So the only frog that stays in water that boils is one with brain damage 🙂

                          Which likely occurs from the boiling water.... which in another way means, as you see things beginning to boil, you begin to care less and less and just let it get worse.

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                          • NicN
                            Nic @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                            @Nic said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                            To debunk the frog story a bit, in the experiment where they sat in the slowly boiling water, they were decorticated first. So the only frog that stays in water that boils is one with brain damage 🙂

                            Which likely occurs from the boiling water.... which in another way means, as you see things beginning to boil, you begin to care less and less and just let it get worse.

                            No, the brain was removed first 🙂 https://thinkprogress.org/stop-saying-humans-are-like-slowly-boiling-frogs-f27537e83355

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                            • bbigfordB
                              bbigford @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                              @DustinB3403 said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                              I would think that you could see that things are getting worse, in one way or another. An email that rubs you the wrong way, a quip, extended hours etc etc.

                              Those things happen during normal times, though, they don't indicate a gradual slip towards a lower state.

                              Exactly.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                So you are saying that humans are dumber than frogs in water?

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                                  So you are saying that humans are dumber than frogs in water?

                                  So you are saying that humans are dumber than frogs in water without a brain.?

                                  FTFY

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                                  • momurdaM
                                    momurda
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                                    How can a frog live without a brain? That is something that isnt explained.
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                                    How is it not dead if it has no brain? I understand their brains arent as complex as a humans, but can they actually live without them?

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                                    • NicN
                                      Nic @momurda
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                                      @momurda I think they left the brainstem so that basic functions still worked and just scooped out the rest of the brain. Kind of like that headless chicken that lived for years:
                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken

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                                      • momurdaM
                                        momurda @Nic
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                                        @Nic WTF? that is crazy

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @momurda
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                                          @momurda said in Frog in the Boiling Water:

                                          @Nic WTF? that is crazy

                                          Didn't grow up on a farm I guess. The entire term "running around like a chicken with its head cut off" comes from the fact that chickens continue to live for quite some time without a head.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            The sick part is "When Mike did not die, Olsen instead decided to care for the bird. He fed it a mixture of milk and water via an eyedropper, and gave it small grains of corn."

                                            Olsen is a psycho

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