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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @IRJ
      last edited by stacksofplates

      @IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:

      @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:

      NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.

      Ok so it is nomachine?

      VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?

      I've used NoMachine over ZeroTier to connect to Windows machines (and some Linux) and it's been fine.

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:

        @IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:

        @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:

        NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.

        Ok so it is nomachine?

        VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?

        I've used NoMachine over ZeroTier to connect to Windows machines (and some Linux) and it's been fine.

        X2Go is also a good candidate for this.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @dafyre
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          @dafyre said in ZeroTier Performance?:

          @stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:

          @IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:

          @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:

          NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.

          Ok so it is nomachine?

          VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?

          I've used NoMachine over ZeroTier to connect to Windows machines (and some Linux) and it's been fine.

          X2Go is also a good candidate for this.

          It doesn't work with Gnome 3 though. You would need to use just the published applications instead of the full desktop.

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @IRJ
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            @IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:

            I am looking at a reliable remote solution for Kali (Debian) Gnome 3 using zero tier.

            I have zerotier setup and configured to connect on startup, but finding a remote solution has been a challenge to say the least. Kali is not the best for compatibility. XRDP does not work, tightvnc does not work, and x11vnc is very unreliable and the service dies after some time.

            Long story, short I found nomachine and set it up. The connection seems very slow. Much slower and less resolution than a normal vnc session.

            What type of performance are you guys getting from nomachine or other remote desktop viewing applications using zero tier?

            I am not against paying for a reliable remote desktop solution. Teamviewer works flawlessly, but I am looking for something that isn't $849 for one license if possible.

            Is it a VM or a physical box?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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              @stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:

              @dafyre said in ZeroTier Performance?:

              @stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:

              @IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:

              @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:

              NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.

              Ok so it is nomachine?

              VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?

              I've used NoMachine over ZeroTier to connect to Windows machines (and some Linux) and it's been fine.

              X2Go is also a good candidate for this.

              It doesn't work with Gnome 3 though. You would need to use just the published applications instead of the full desktop.

              Or change desktops. We use LXDE for that. XFCE works fine, too.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @stacksofplates
                last edited by stacksofplates

                @stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:

                @IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:

                I am looking at a reliable remote solution for Kali (Debian) Gnome 3 using zero tier.

                I have zerotier setup and configured to connect on startup, but finding a remote solution has been a challenge to say the least. Kali is not the best for compatibility. XRDP does not work, tightvnc does not work, and x11vnc is very unreliable and the service dies after some time.

                Long story, short I found nomachine and set it up. The connection seems very slow. Much slower and less resolution than a normal vnc session.

                What type of performance are you guys getting from nomachine or other remote desktop viewing applications using zero tier?

                I am not against paying for a reliable remote desktop solution. Teamviewer works flawlessly, but I am looking for something that isn't $849 for one license if possible.

                Is it a VM or a physical box?

                If it's a VM running on either KVM or Xen, I normally use SPICE through either Remmina or the normal remote desktop application. I just make a tunnel and connect to whatever SPICE port (eg 5903).

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates
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                  I'll do some tests tonight when I get home.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    I'm wondering - are you connecting to GUIs on 'nix at your clients?

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @Dashrender
                      last edited by IRJ

                      @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Performance?:

                      I'm wondering - are you connecting to GUIs on 'nix at your clients?

                      The terminal will be used for most functions. Tools like nmap can have issues when using the GUI so they need to be run from a terminal. Running scans without a GUI is much quicker.

                      There are a some applications in Kali that have no command line options (mostly newer tools).

                      Tools like nomachine and TeamViewer create a new display so the vm is locked to the customer.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @IRJ
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                        @IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:

                        @Dashrender said in ZeroTier Performance?:

                        I'm wondering - are you connecting to GUIs on 'nix at your clients?

                        The terminal will be used for most functions. Tools like nmap can have issues when using the GUI so they need to be run from a terminal. Running scans without a GUI is much quicker.

                        There are a some applications in Kali that have no command line options (mostly newer tools).

                        Tools like nomachine and TeamViewer create a new display so the vm is locked to the customer.

                        So you are talking about end user support here?

                        I really like ScreenConnect - and no VPN required.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates
                          last edited by stacksofplates

                          So after taking forever to get a GUI on a Fedora 25 Droplet I finally got NoMachine running over ZeroTier. I didn't notice any bad lag. It was a 2 CPU 4GB droplet with the default NoMachine settings.

                          I do remember I had a Kali VM on my KVM server. No matter what I did with it, the performance was terrible, even through SPICE.

                          Youtube Video

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            That's interesting. We see horrendous lag from X2Go via Mint. Maybe it is the Ubuntu base, we've not tested with Fedora. I wonder if that alone would make a difference?

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:

                              That's interesting. We see horrendous lag from X2Go via Mint. Maybe it is the Ubuntu base, we've not tested with Fedora. I wonder if that alone would make a difference?

                              Ya I don't have any Ununtu based systems with a GUI. I had that Kali system and gave it 4 CPUs and either 8 or 16 GB of RAM and it was still laggy virtualized (didn't try it physical).

                              But I've never had any issues with NoMachine or X2Go with a RHEL based system. I've also managed client sites with NoMachine on Windows and not had any issues.

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