ZeroTier Performance?
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I am looking at a reliable remote solution for Kali (Debian) Gnome 3 using zero tier.
I have zerotier setup and configured to connect on startup, but finding a remote solution has been a challenge to say the least. Kali is not the best for compatibility. XRDP does not work, tightvnc does not work, and x11vnc is very unreliable and the service dies after some time.
Long story, short I found nomachine and set it up. The connection seems very slow. Much slower and less resolution than a normal vnc session.
What type of performance are you guys getting from nomachine or other remote desktop viewing applications using zero tier?
I am not against paying for a reliable remote desktop solution. Teamviewer works flawlessly, but I am looking for something that isn't $849 for one license if possible.
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@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
Teamviewer works flawlessly, but I am looking for something that isn't $849 for one license if possible.
I assume this isn't for personal use?
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Have you tried VNC over SSH?
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@IRJ Kali isn't really setup for this sort of thing, it's setup to break into it! That said, what sort of upload speed are you getting at the remote site?
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NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.
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@travisdh1 said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@IRJ Kali isn't really setup for this sort of thing, it's setup to break into it! That said, what sort of upload speed are you getting at the remote site?
You are 100% right. Kali isn't meant for this, but there are so many people trying to do it. I have read threads and threads about people trying to get vnc working properly and other remote desktop solutions.
This is basically what I am trying to achieve.
https://onehostcloud.hosting/kali-linux-vps-hosting/
Right now I am testing from my house. I want to make sure I get everything 100% right before I move on to any clients.
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@aaronstuder said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
Teamviewer works flawlessly, but I am looking for something that isn't $849 for one license if possible.
I assume this isn't for personal use?
No it is not. Like I said I am not against buying a license, but I'd rather not fork out $849. I am hoping to find something free or under $400 if possible.
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@scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:
NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.
Ok so it is nomachine?
VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?
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@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:
NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.
Ok so it is nomachine?
VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?
Yeah, VNC tends to be slow. It's kinda showing it's age now.
I've been impressed with the SPICE access I've seen, but that's for QEMU only.
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You can build the latest xrdp stuff yourself. It's not terribly bad. What is Kali based on? Ubuntu?
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@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:
NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.
Ok so it is nomachine?
VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?
I've used NoMachine over ZeroTier to connect to Windows machines (and some Linux) and it's been fine.
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@stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:
NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.
Ok so it is nomachine?
VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?
I've used NoMachine over ZeroTier to connect to Windows machines (and some Linux) and it's been fine.
X2Go is also a good candidate for this.
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@dafyre said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:
NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.
Ok so it is nomachine?
VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?
I've used NoMachine over ZeroTier to connect to Windows machines (and some Linux) and it's been fine.
X2Go is also a good candidate for this.
It doesn't work with Gnome 3 though. You would need to use just the published applications instead of the full desktop.
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@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
I am looking at a reliable remote solution for Kali (Debian) Gnome 3 using zero tier.
I have zerotier setup and configured to connect on startup, but finding a remote solution has been a challenge to say the least. Kali is not the best for compatibility. XRDP does not work, tightvnc does not work, and x11vnc is very unreliable and the service dies after some time.
Long story, short I found nomachine and set it up. The connection seems very slow. Much slower and less resolution than a normal vnc session.
What type of performance are you guys getting from nomachine or other remote desktop viewing applications using zero tier?
I am not against paying for a reliable remote desktop solution. Teamviewer works flawlessly, but I am looking for something that isn't $849 for one license if possible.
Is it a VM or a physical box?
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@stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@dafyre said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@scottalanmiller said in ZeroTier Performance?:
NoMachine isn't the fastest over slow connections. It can be quite painful.
Ok so it is nomachine?
VNC is working fine over zerotier. I wasn't sure if something wasn't configured right for nomachine, but it seems like by nature it is slow?
I've used NoMachine over ZeroTier to connect to Windows machines (and some Linux) and it's been fine.
X2Go is also a good candidate for this.
It doesn't work with Gnome 3 though. You would need to use just the published applications instead of the full desktop.
Or change desktops. We use LXDE for that. XFCE works fine, too.
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@stacksofplates said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
I am looking at a reliable remote solution for Kali (Debian) Gnome 3 using zero tier.
I have zerotier setup and configured to connect on startup, but finding a remote solution has been a challenge to say the least. Kali is not the best for compatibility. XRDP does not work, tightvnc does not work, and x11vnc is very unreliable and the service dies after some time.
Long story, short I found nomachine and set it up. The connection seems very slow. Much slower and less resolution than a normal vnc session.
What type of performance are you guys getting from nomachine or other remote desktop viewing applications using zero tier?
I am not against paying for a reliable remote desktop solution. Teamviewer works flawlessly, but I am looking for something that isn't $849 for one license if possible.
Is it a VM or a physical box?
If it's a VM running on either KVM or Xen, I normally use SPICE through either Remmina or the normal remote desktop application. I just make a tunnel and connect to whatever SPICE port (eg 5903).
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I'll do some tests tonight when I get home.
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I'm wondering - are you connecting to GUIs on 'nix at your clients?
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@Dashrender said in ZeroTier Performance?:
I'm wondering - are you connecting to GUIs on 'nix at your clients?
The terminal will be used for most functions. Tools like nmap can have issues when using the GUI so they need to be run from a terminal. Running scans without a GUI is much quicker.
There are a some applications in Kali that have no command line options (mostly newer tools).
Tools like nomachine and TeamViewer create a new display so the vm is locked to the customer.
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@IRJ said in ZeroTier Performance?:
@Dashrender said in ZeroTier Performance?:
I'm wondering - are you connecting to GUIs on 'nix at your clients?
The terminal will be used for most functions. Tools like nmap can have issues when using the GUI so they need to be run from a terminal. Running scans without a GUI is much quicker.
There are a some applications in Kali that have no command line options (mostly newer tools).
Tools like nomachine and TeamViewer create a new display so the vm is locked to the customer.
So you are talking about end user support here?
I really like ScreenConnect - and no VPN required.
