User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated
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@thwr said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
People hate Win10, they hated Win8.1, 8.0, 7 SP1, 7, Vista, XP, 2000, NT3.51, ME, 98 SE, 98, 95, 3.11, 3.1, 3.0, 2.0... probably even 1.0. But all of a sudden, they are using it.
I met a vendor's tech a few weeks ago who hated Windows 7. He said he was forced to move to it the month prior and he doesn't think it works as well as Windows XP did. This was a tech of a huge German HVAC company.
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@coliver IMHO, every new version was a major improvement over its predecessor. Vista with UAC, Win8 had great new features behind the scenes (yeah, don't like the GUI too) and 10 is just great, apart from being naked when it comes to privacy.
About that tech: Well, everyone should have an opinion
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@thwr said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@coliver IMHO, every new version was a major improvement over its predecessor. Vista with UAC, Win8 had great new features behind the scenes (yeah, don't like the GUI too) and 10 is just great, apart from being naked when it comes to privacy.
About that tech: Well, everyone should have an opinion
In laymen terms please describe "naked when it comes to privacy".
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@DustinB3403 said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@thwr said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@coliver IMHO, every new version was a major improvement over its predecessor. Vista with UAC, Win8 had great new features behind the scenes (yeah, don't like the GUI too) and 10 is just great, apart from being naked when it comes to privacy.
About that tech: Well, everyone should have an opinion
In laymen terms please describe "naked when it comes to privacy".
I'm talking about default privacy settings of windows 10. Smartscreen filtering, usage stats, Ad-ID, text-suggestions, geolocation for websites and so on - basically everything what you need to explicitly turn off in windows privacy settings during / post-install.
I'm aware that there are differences between the insider preview and the normal windows update channel and it really depends on your point of you - I'm not comfortable with an OS that is calling home for other things than updates. But that is just my very own point of view.
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@DustinB3403 said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@thwr said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@coliver IMHO, every new version was a major improvement over its predecessor. Vista with UAC, Win8 had great new features behind the scenes (yeah, don't like the GUI too) and 10 is just great, apart from being naked when it comes to privacy.
About that tech: Well, everyone should have an opinion
In laymen terms please describe "naked when it comes to privacy".
To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".
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@Breffni-Potter said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
Now, I have my own thoughts and feelings about this but the user is someone I know and they are keen for this to be seen so I'm "sharing" in the old fashioned way.
https://www.facebook.com/christine.daniel.129/videos/10153391239151910/
I have no idea what happened prior to the uploading of the video. I leave this here for the community to give an opinion on the video above. Yes it is only on Facebook but you don't need an account to view.
Opinions?
Nana couldn't get to Facebook for 2 hours... And doesn't own a smart phone? The afternoon is absolutely ruined.
I know if my mom couldn't get to Facebook to see her grand kids she'd... Probably just give up on waiting and physically go and see them. Problem solved.
I still call my family on Sunday's... Then again I don't have Facebook anymore because of the crap my family thinks people want to hear about.
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@BBigford said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@Breffni-Potter said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
Now, I have my own thoughts and feelings about this but the user is someone I know and they are keen for this to be seen so I'm "sharing" in the old fashioned way.
https://www.facebook.com/christine.daniel.129/videos/10153391239151910/
I have no idea what happened prior to the uploading of the video. I leave this here for the community to give an opinion on the video above. Yes it is only on Facebook but you don't need an account to view.
Opinions?
Nana couldn't get to Facebook for 2 hours... And doesn't own a smart phone? The afternoon is absolutely ruined.
I know if my mom couldn't get to Facebook to see her grand kids she'd... Probably just give up on waiting and physically go and see them. Problem solved.
I still call my family on Sunday's... Then again I don't have Facebook anymore because of the crap my family thinks people want to hear about.
Too bad you're only able to upvote once.
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@BBigford said
To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".
Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.
Bitlocker enabled by default.
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@BRRABill said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@BBigford said
To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".
Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.
Bitlocker enabled by default.
Any source?
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@BRRABill said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@BBigford said
To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".
Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.
Bitlocker enabled by default.
Say what? I haven't seen Bitlocker enabled by default? As for the keys being sent to MS - for home users, I would fully expect this, but I would also fully expect the keys to be encrypted using the logon credentials to the MS account (not that this would/should be an issue for MS, but still nice).
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@BBigford said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".
Anyone who uses an Android Phone or an iPhone suffers this same list only on the the tech specific to their platform. As for WiFi sense, it's not enabled by default, so it's really a non issue!
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"How dare you!"
"Hashtag Frustrated!!"She sounds a bit hysterical, to be honest. Her attempts to make it go viral haven't really worked either. I might try posting it on a few other places to help her out
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I got a call on Sunday from a family member after their computer upgraded overnight without their approval. I don't think Microsoft is playing fair. In this case Internet Explorer favorites didn't import in to Edge, and it removed Internet Explorer from the tiles and taskbar. Simple fix for me, but not for the end user.
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What if it was one of our computers and it decided to upgrade and we sat down to work and it was sitting there for 2 hours displaying "do not reboot your computer"?
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@BRRABill said
Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.
Bitlocker enabled by default.
Only if your using a Microsoft Account
Your Microsoft account online. This option is only available on non-domain-joined PCs.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/bitlocker-recovery-keys-faq
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@aaronstuder said
Only if your using a Microsoft Account
Which is another thing I think normal users find very hard to opt out of.
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@BRRABill Would you rather normal users lose all there data?
Normal users NEVER remember were any paperwork for the computer is.....
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@aaronstuder said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@BRRABill said
Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.
Bitlocker enabled by default.
Only if your using a Microsoft Account
Your Microsoft account online. This option is only available on non-domain-joined PCs.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/bitlocker-recovery-keys-faq
This is no different than Apple doing the same for the iPhone with iMessages. Apple stores the encryption key so you just add a device to the account and the key is provided to the device and your messages are all readable.
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@aaronstuder said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:
@BRRABill Would you rather normal users lose all there data?
Normal users NEVER remember were any paperwork for the computer is.....
I agree with this. There is the ability to opt out for those who really know what they are doing, but frankly the normal person should not be opting out. These protections are there to help them.
I really can't wait until the MS store really takes off and everyone buys all of their software in that store. Today, when a PC needs to be rebuilt you ask the user for all of their software installers, etc, do they have them? Of course not, they threw them away, or lost them, etc. Using the store makes a PC more like an iPhone or Android device. You log in with your purchasing account and tada! all of your apps can come back.
Normal people need this, normal people WANT this.
