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    User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated

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    • thwrT
      thwr
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      People hate Win10, they hated Win8.1, 8.0, 7 SP1, 7, Vista, XP, 2000, NT3.51, ME, 98 SE, 98, 95, 3.11, 3.1, 3.0, 2.0... probably even 1.0. But all of a sudden, they are using it.

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        coliver @thwr
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        @thwr said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

        People hate Win10, they hated Win8.1, 8.0, 7 SP1, 7, Vista, XP, 2000, NT3.51, ME, 98 SE, 98, 95, 3.11, 3.1, 3.0, 2.0... probably even 1.0. But all of a sudden, they are using it.

        I met a vendor's tech a few weeks ago who hated Windows 7. He said he was forced to move to it the month prior and he doesn't think it works as well as Windows XP did. This was a tech of a huge German HVAC company.

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        • thwrT
          thwr @coliver
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          @coliver IMHO, every new version was a major improvement over its predecessor. Vista with UAC, Win8 had great new features behind the scenes (yeah, don't like the GUI too) and 10 is just great, apart from being naked when it comes to privacy.

          About that tech: Well, everyone should have an opinion 😉

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @thwr
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            @thwr said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

            @coliver IMHO, every new version was a major improvement over its predecessor. Vista with UAC, Win8 had great new features behind the scenes (yeah, don't like the GUI too) and 10 is just great, apart from being naked when it comes to privacy.

            About that tech: Well, everyone should have an opinion 😉

            In laymen terms please describe "naked when it comes to privacy".

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            • thwrT
              thwr @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

              @thwr said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

              @coliver IMHO, every new version was a major improvement over its predecessor. Vista with UAC, Win8 had great new features behind the scenes (yeah, don't like the GUI too) and 10 is just great, apart from being naked when it comes to privacy.

              About that tech: Well, everyone should have an opinion 😉

              In laymen terms please describe "naked when it comes to privacy".

              I'm talking about default privacy settings of windows 10. Smartscreen filtering, usage stats, Ad-ID, text-suggestions, geolocation for websites and so on - basically everything what you need to explicitly turn off in windows privacy settings during / post-install.

              I'm aware that there are differences between the insider preview and the normal windows update channel and it really depends on your point of you - I'm not comfortable with an OS that is calling home for other things than updates. But that is just my very own point of view.

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              • bbigfordB
                bbigford @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                @thwr said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                @coliver IMHO, every new version was a major improvement over its predecessor. Vista with UAC, Win8 had great new features behind the scenes (yeah, don't like the GUI too) and 10 is just great, apart from being naked when it comes to privacy.

                About that tech: Well, everyone should have an opinion 😉

                In laymen terms please describe "naked when it comes to privacy".

                To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".

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                • bbigfordB
                  bbigford @Deleted74295
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                  @Breffni-Potter said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                  Now, I have my own thoughts and feelings about this but the user is someone I know and they are keen for this to be seen so I'm "sharing" in the old fashioned way.

                  https://www.facebook.com/christine.daniel.129/videos/10153391239151910/

                  I have no idea what happened prior to the uploading of the video. I leave this here for the community to give an opinion on the video above. Yes it is only on Facebook but you don't need an account to view.

                  Opinions?

                  Nana couldn't get to Facebook for 2 hours... And doesn't own a smart phone? The afternoon is absolutely ruined.

                  I know if my mom couldn't get to Facebook to see her grand kids she'd... Probably just give up on waiting and physically go and see them. Problem solved.

                  I still call my family on Sunday's... Then again I don't have Facebook anymore because of the crap my family thinks people want to hear about.

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @bbigford
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                      @BBigford said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                      @Breffni-Potter said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                      Now, I have my own thoughts and feelings about this but the user is someone I know and they are keen for this to be seen so I'm "sharing" in the old fashioned way.

                      https://www.facebook.com/christine.daniel.129/videos/10153391239151910/

                      I have no idea what happened prior to the uploading of the video. I leave this here for the community to give an opinion on the video above. Yes it is only on Facebook but you don't need an account to view.

                      Opinions?

                      Nana couldn't get to Facebook for 2 hours... And doesn't own a smart phone? The afternoon is absolutely ruined.

                      I know if my mom couldn't get to Facebook to see her grand kids she'd... Probably just give up on waiting and physically go and see them. Problem solved.

                      I still call my family on Sunday's... Then again I don't have Facebook anymore because of the crap my family thinks people want to hear about.

                      Too bad you're only able to upvote once.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @bbigford
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                        @BBigford said

                        To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".

                        Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.

                        Bitlocker enabled by default.

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                        • thwrT
                          thwr @BRRABill
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                          @BRRABill said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                          @BBigford said

                          To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".

                          Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.

                          Bitlocker enabled by default.

                          Any source?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                            @BBigford said

                            To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".

                            Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.

                            Bitlocker enabled by default.

                            Say what? I haven't seen Bitlocker enabled by default? As for the keys being sent to MS - for home users, I would fully expect this, but I would also fully expect the keys to be encrypted using the logon credentials to the MS account (not that this would/should be an issue for MS, but still nice).

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @bbigford
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                              @BBigford said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                              To name a few... WiFi Sense, Telemetry, Cortana. The list is extensive though, so much that people developed programs and PowerShell scripts to disable the atrocities that were the "features".

                              Anyone who uses an Android Phone or an iPhone suffers this same list only on the the tech specific to their platform. As for WiFi sense, it's not enabled by default, so it's really a non issue!

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                                Carnival Boy
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                                "How dare you!"
                                "Hashtag Frustrated!!"

                                She sounds a bit hysterical, to be honest. Her attempts to make it go viral haven't really worked either. I might try posting it on a few other places to help her out 🙂

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                                • Mike DavisM
                                  Mike Davis
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                                  I got a call on Sunday from a family member after their computer upgraded overnight without their approval. I don't think Microsoft is playing fair. In this case Internet Explorer favorites didn't import in to Edge, and it removed Internet Explorer from the tiles and taskbar. Simple fix for me, but not for the end user.

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                                  • Mike DavisM
                                    Mike Davis
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                                    What if it was one of our computers and it decided to upgrade and we sat down to work and it was sitting there for 2 hours displaying "do not reboot your computer"?

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                                      Alex Sage @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said

                                      Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.

                                      Bitlocker enabled by default.

                                      Only if your using a Microsoft Account

                                      Your Microsoft account online. This option is only available on non-domain-joined PCs.

                                      http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/bitlocker-recovery-keys-faq

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @Alex Sage
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                                        @aaronstuder said

                                        Only if your using a Microsoft Account

                                        Which is another thing I think normal users find very hard to opt out of.

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                                          Alex Sage @BRRABill
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                                          @BRRABill Would you rather normal users lose all there data?

                                          Normal users NEVER remember were any paperwork for the computer is.....

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Alex Sage
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                                            @aaronstuder said in User's thoughts on Windows 10. #frustrated:

                                            @BRRABill said

                                            Bitlocker keys sent to Microsoft.

                                            Bitlocker enabled by default.

                                            Only if your using a Microsoft Account

                                            Your Microsoft account online. This option is only available on non-domain-joined PCs.

                                            http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/bitlocker-recovery-keys-faq

                                            This is no different than Apple doing the same for the iPhone with iMessages. Apple stores the encryption key so you just add a device to the account and the key is provided to the device and your messages are all readable.

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