What Are You Doing Right Now
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@johnhooks said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@johnhooks said:
Just had someone here try to tell me that when you go into a directory, your secondary groups aren't taken into account. You have to change your primary group to whatever the gid is of the directory.
So I demonstrated for him that secondary groups are definitely used for permissions and all he said was "I don't think that's how it works."
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Was this a SW conversation?
No sadly. Real life, in the office.
Just be glad you're using Linux. You don't even want to know what I'm dealing with right now.
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@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
Just had someone here try to tell me that when you go into a directory, your secondary groups aren't taken into account. You have to change your primary group to whatever the gid is of the directory.
So I demonstrated for him that secondary groups are definitely used for permissions and all he said was "I don't think that's how it works."
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I thought primary group was a legacy pre-nt thing?
Sorry this is on Linux. Forgot to mention that
Oh. I've only ever heard it on Windows. That's why I defaulted to that.
Ha shows how much I know about Windows. I didn't even know they had primary and secondary groups.
They did for a short period of time before NT. After NT I don't think groups have mattered except in the no-before-yes instances.
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@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
Just had someone here try to tell me that when you go into a directory, your secondary groups aren't taken into account. You have to change your primary group to whatever the gid is of the directory.
So I demonstrated for him that secondary groups are definitely used for permissions and all he said was "I don't think that's how it works."
....................
I thought primary group was a legacy pre-nt thing?
Sorry this is on Linux. Forgot to mention that
Oh. I've only ever heard it on Windows. That's why I defaulted to that.
Ha shows how much I know about Windows. I didn't even know they had primary and secondary groups.
They did for a short period of time before NT. After NT I don't think groups have mattered except in the no-before-yes instances.
Before NT? What WAS there before NT?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
Just had someone here try to tell me that when you go into a directory, your secondary groups aren't taken into account. You have to change your primary group to whatever the gid is of the directory.
So I demonstrated for him that secondary groups are definitely used for permissions and all he said was "I don't think that's how it works."
....................
I thought primary group was a legacy pre-nt thing?
Sorry this is on Linux. Forgot to mention that
Oh. I've only ever heard it on Windows. That's why I defaulted to that.
Ha shows how much I know about Windows. I didn't even know they had primary and secondary groups.
They did for a short period of time before NT. After NT I don't think groups have mattered except in the no-before-yes instances.
Before NT? What WAS there before NT?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
Just had someone here try to tell me that when you go into a directory, your secondary groups aren't taken into account. You have to change your primary group to whatever the gid is of the directory.
So I demonstrated for him that secondary groups are definitely used for permissions and all he said was "I don't think that's how it works."
....................
I thought primary group was a legacy pre-nt thing?
Sorry this is on Linux. Forgot to mention that
Oh. I've only ever heard it on Windows. That's why I defaulted to that.
Ha shows how much I know about Windows. I didn't even know they had primary and secondary groups.
They did for a short period of time before NT. After NT I don't think groups have mattered except in the no-before-yes instances.
Before NT? What WAS there before NT?
I'm probably mistaken. Didn't they have a workgroup system in the DOS era that relied on primary groups?
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
Just had someone here try to tell me that when you go into a directory, your secondary groups aren't taken into account. You have to change your primary group to whatever the gid is of the directory.
So I demonstrated for him that secondary groups are definitely used for permissions and all he said was "I don't think that's how it works."
....................
I thought primary group was a legacy pre-nt thing?
Sorry this is on Linux. Forgot to mention that
Oh. I've only ever heard it on Windows. That's why I defaulted to that.
Ha shows how much I know about Windows. I didn't even know they had primary and secondary groups.
They did for a short period of time before NT. After NT I don't think groups have mattered except in the no-before-yes instances.
Before NT? What WAS there before NT?
I'm probably mistaken. Didn't they have a workgroup system in the DOS era that relied on primary groups?
You mean 3.11 Windows for Workgroups? Maybe, can't really recall how the security worked (or if there was any.) Did WFW even predate NT, though? They were concurrent, not sure which made it out first.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
@coliver said:
@johnhooks said:
Just had someone here try to tell me that when you go into a directory, your secondary groups aren't taken into account. You have to change your primary group to whatever the gid is of the directory.
So I demonstrated for him that secondary groups are definitely used for permissions and all he said was "I don't think that's how it works."
....................
I thought primary group was a legacy pre-nt thing?
Sorry this is on Linux. Forgot to mention that
Oh. I've only ever heard it on Windows. That's why I defaulted to that.
Ha shows how much I know about Windows. I didn't even know they had primary and secondary groups.
They did for a short period of time before NT. After NT I don't think groups have mattered except in the no-before-yes instances.
Before NT? What WAS there before NT?
I'm probably mistaken. Didn't they have a workgroup system in the DOS era that relied on primary groups?
You mean 3.11 Windows for Workgroups? Maybe, can't really recall how the security worked (or if there was any.) Did WFW even predate NT, though? They were concurrent, not sure which made it out first.
That's fair. It was a point made in undergrad by some unreliable professors. I looked into it back then and determined it was no longer valid.
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Yawning
![0_1460562663673_image.jpg](Uploading 100%)
Unexpected token error on upload.
File size too large?
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Waiting for home time.
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@JaredBusch said:
Yawning
![0_1460562663673_image.jpg](Uploading 100%)
Unexpected token error on upload.
File size too large?
Seems unlikely, we made it pretty big. I've not seen that error in quite a while and I upload some big stuff from time to time.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Yawning
![0_1460562663673_image.jpg](Uploading 100%)
Unexpected token error on upload.
File size too large?
Seems unlikely, we made it pretty big. I've not seen that error in quite a while and I upload some big stuff from time to time.
I always have to resize pics taken w my phone to upload them here. Or maybe it just does that when posting from mobile.
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@RojoLoco said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Yawning
![0_1460562663673_image.jpg](Uploading 100%)
Unexpected token error on upload.
File size too large?
Seems unlikely, we made it pretty big. I've not seen that error in quite a while and I upload some big stuff from time to time.
I always have to resize pics taken w my phone to upload them here. Or maybe it just does that when posting from mobile.
I will have to look into that. That was an issue long ago, but I thought that we got it fixed. I've not seen it in a while, even from my phone. but the iPhone 5S doesn't have the biggest camera, either.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@RojoLoco said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Yawning
![0_1460562663673_image.jpg](Uploading 100%)
Unexpected token error on upload.
File size too large?
Seems unlikely, we made it pretty big. I've not seen that error in quite a while and I upload some big stuff from time to time.
I always have to resize pics taken w my phone to upload them here. Or maybe it just does that when posting from mobile.
I will have to look into that. That was an issue long ago, but I thought that we got it fixed. I've not seen it in a while, even from my phone. but the iPhone 5S doesn't have the biggest camera, either.
My camera pics are ~4.2mb, a quick crop gets them under the size limit. I haven't seen this happen from a desktop yet.
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@RojoLoco said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Yawning
![0_1460562663673_image.jpg](Uploading 100%)
Unexpected token error on upload.
File size too large?
Seems unlikely, we made it pretty big. I've not seen that error in quite a while and I upload some big stuff from time to time.
I always have to resize pics taken w my phone to upload them here. Or maybe it just does that when posting from mobile.
Me too. I am using Samsung Galaxy S6
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@IRJ said:
@RojoLoco said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
Yawning
![0_1460562663673_image.jpg](Uploading 100%)
Unexpected token error on upload.
File size too large?
Seems unlikely, we made it pretty big. I've not seen that error in quite a while and I upload some big stuff from time to time.
I always have to resize pics taken w my phone to upload them here. Or maybe it just does that when posting from mobile.
Me too. I am using Samsung Galaxy S6
Motorola Turbo 2 here.
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Getting in the car here, Serbia here we come.
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Will be in Timisoara tonight. The top Internet access city in the world!
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@scottalanmiller said:
Will be in Timisoara tonight. The top Internet access city in the world!
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@DustinB3403 said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@johnhooks Don't for ! for capital i or lowercase L just to be confusing....
Or maybe if IT changed it's practice of 8 characters, special case, upper lower to Any sentence you can think of.
Complete with spaces and punctuation.
1337
I am 1 3 3 7!
Would be far more secure. (47 million years to crack according to https://howsecureismypassword.net/)
Just happened to think..
is this site a password harvesting system?
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@gjacobse said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@dafyre said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@johnhooks Don't for ! for capital i or lowercase L just to be confusing....
Or maybe if IT changed it's practice of 8 characters, special case, upper lower to Any sentence you can think of.
Complete with spaces and punctuation.
1337
I am 1 3 3 7!
Would be far more secure. (47 million years to crack according to https://howsecureismypassword.net/)
Just happened to think..
is this site a password harvesting system?
It could be, but that is why I never use my passwords on sites I don't fully trust.