MacBook Pro build-to-buy
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I had to give a user a quote for a MacBook Pro. They need dedicated graphics and I went to look at Apple for a build-to-buy. Looks like they really slimmed that down. The only one that doesn't just have Iris graphics is their highest end model for $2499.99 ....
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
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@BBigford They don't even offer the newest skylake processors, a whole revision behind.
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@papercape said:
@BBigford They don't even offer the newest skylake processors, a whole revision behind.
Oh that's not new. That's been their MO for years regarding CPUs and GPUs. They probably won't switch to DDR4 RAM for 5 more years.
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Yeah the options for a Macbooks are very much slimmed down from where they used to be.
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Doesn't sound very "pro" for a $2500 laptop...
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@RojoLoco said:
Doesn't sound very "pro" for a $2500 laptop...
It has the word Mac in it.. it must be pro - those are the only people who buy that stuff.
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@BBigford said:
I had to give a user a quote for a MacBook Pro. They need dedicated graphics and I went to look at Apple for a build-to-buy. Looks like they really slimmed that down. The only one that doesn't just have Iris graphics is their highest end model for $2499.99 ....
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
I think Amazon has one slightly cheaper than that that has AMD r9 + iris 16gb of ram, 512gb SSD. I'd say don't get one unless there's a really good reason. Editing video and needing pro res codec is about the only reason these days. Most video work and all audio and graphics work is now better on windows
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@Jason said:
@BBigford said:
I had to give a user a quote for a MacBook Pro. They need dedicated graphics and I went to look at Apple for a build-to-buy. Looks like they really slimmed that down. The only one that doesn't just have Iris graphics is their highest end model for $2499.99 ....
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
I think Amazon has one slightly cheaper than that that has AMD r9 + iris 16gb of ram, 512gb SSD. I'd say don't get one unless there's a really good reason. Editing video and needing pro res codec is about the only reason these days. Most video work and all audio and graphics work is now better on windows
No there is absolutely no justified reason for buying it. They ended up getting every top of the line spec (~$3200 plus extras). But when it's for someone in sales, we really have zero pull since they are babied around here. They have quantifiable evidence of how much money they make the company. Whatever. I still use 3 year old monitors and a Latitude E6410. I just got in some laptops people are replacing with brand new ones so I can choose between a Latitude E6520 or M6600 (weighty, but the video card is pretty good, and bigger screen). Neither has support for Windows 10. I know the M6600 does terrible with Win10, the E6520 seems ok so far (setting it up now). Sales get to replace their laptops twice per year. IT, every 5 years (at best). I don't need brand new so I just take the replacement gear. Saves the company money while sales is spending money like it is going out of style. One person in marketing has had three MacBooks at one point recently. That's right, three. I think she is down to two... Plus a Windows laptop. Sales and marketing really push me to the edge of my sanity with all the demands for Apple products. If it was justified, sure. Go ahead, but "well...Mac. I work better on a Mac. Macs don't get viruses. It is faster. It just works." Zero validity in that argument and I hear that crap every argument.
Sorry. Ranting over here.
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@BBigford said:
@Jason said:
@BBigford said:
I had to give a user a quote for a MacBook Pro. They need dedicated graphics and I went to look at Apple for a build-to-buy. Looks like they really slimmed that down. The only one that doesn't just have Iris graphics is their highest end model for $2499.99 ....
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
I think Amazon has one slightly cheaper than that that has AMD r9 + iris 16gb of ram, 512gb SSD. I'd say don't get one unless there's a really good reason. Editing video and needing pro res codec is about the only reason these days. Most video work and all audio and graphics work is now better on windows
No there is absolutely no justified reason for buying it. They ended up getting every top of the line spec (~$3200 plus extras). But when it's for someone in sales, we really have zero pull since they are babied around here. They have quantifiable evidence of how much money they make the company. Whatever. I still use 3 year old monitors and a Latitude E6410. I just got in some laptops people are replacing with brand new ones so I can choose between a Latitude E6520 or M6600 (weighty, but the video card is pretty good, and bigger screen). Neither has support for Windows 10. I know the M6600 does terrible with Win10, the E6520 seems ok so far (setting it up now). Sales get to replace their laptops twice per year. IT, every 5 years (at best). I don't need brand new so I just take the replacement gear. Saves the company money while sales is spending money like it is going out of style. One person in marketing has had three MacBooks at one point recently. That's right, three. I think she is down to two... Plus a Windows laptop. Sales and marketing really push me to the edge of my sanity with all the demands for Apple products. If it was justified, sure. Go ahead, but "well...Mac. I work better on a Mac. Macs don't get viruses. It is faster. It just works." Zero validity in that argument and I hear that crap every argument.
Sorry. Ranting over here.
So a Sales guy that could likely work from a chrome book gets the most expensive mac..
We had that here too though sales guys get macs if they want them (if their managers approve) but they have to stay within the same budget a windows computer would be bought for.. And we don't do VMs with windows clients if you do that we end up paying double and might as well get a windows computer.
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@Jason said:
@BBigford said:
@Jason said:
@BBigford said:
I had to give a user a quote for a MacBook Pro. They need dedicated graphics and I went to look at Apple for a build-to-buy. Looks like they really slimmed that down. The only one that doesn't just have Iris graphics is their highest end model for $2499.99 ....
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
I think Amazon has one slightly cheaper than that that has AMD r9 + iris 16gb of ram, 512gb SSD. I'd say don't get one unless there's a really good reason. Editing video and needing pro res codec is about the only reason these days. Most video work and all audio and graphics work is now better on windows
No there is absolutely no justified reason for buying it. They ended up getting every top of the line spec (~$3200 plus extras). But when it's for someone in sales, we really have zero pull since they are babied around here. They have quantifiable evidence of how much money they make the company. Whatever. I still use 3 year old monitors and a Latitude E6410. I just got in some laptops people are replacing with brand new ones so I can choose between a Latitude E6520 or M6600 (weighty, but the video card is pretty good, and bigger screen). Neither has support for Windows 10. I know the M6600 does terrible with Win10, the E6520 seems ok so far (setting it up now). Sales get to replace their laptops twice per year. IT, every 5 years (at best). I don't need brand new so I just take the replacement gear. Saves the company money while sales is spending money like it is going out of style. One person in marketing has had three MacBooks at one point recently. That's right, three. I think she is down to two... Plus a Windows laptop. Sales and marketing really push me to the edge of my sanity with all the demands for Apple products. If it was justified, sure. Go ahead, but "well...Mac. I work better on a Mac. Macs don't get viruses. It is faster. It just works." Zero validity in that argument and I hear that crap every argument.
Sorry. Ranting over here.
So a Sales guy that could likely work from a chrome book gets the most expensive mac..
We had that here too though sales guys get macs if they want them (if their managers approve) but they have to stay within the same budget a windows computer would be bought for.. And we don't do VMs with windows clients if you do that we end up paying double and might as well get a windows computer.
Staying within the same budget is how I've always done it. They could work from a Chromebook, but Google Earth is getting so demanding of VRAM anymore. Getting pretty frustrating. Nonetheless, there are separate avenues for much more inexpensive devices, as you pointed out.
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@Jason said:
@BBigford said:
@Jason said:
@BBigford said:
I had to give a user a quote for a MacBook Pro. They need dedicated graphics and I went to look at Apple for a build-to-buy. Looks like they really slimmed that down. The only one that doesn't just have Iris graphics is their highest end model for $2499.99 ....
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
I think Amazon has one slightly cheaper than that that has AMD r9 + iris 16gb of ram, 512gb SSD. I'd say don't get one unless there's a really good reason. Editing video and needing pro res codec is about the only reason these days. Most video work and all audio and graphics work is now better on windows
No there is absolutely no justified reason for buying it. They ended up getting every top of the line spec (~$3200 plus extras). But when it's for someone in sales, we really have zero pull since they are babied around here. They have quantifiable evidence of how much money they make the company. Whatever. I still use 3 year old monitors and a Latitude E6410. I just got in some laptops people are replacing with brand new ones so I can choose between a Latitude E6520 or M6600 (weighty, but the video card is pretty good, and bigger screen). Neither has support for Windows 10. I know the M6600 does terrible with Win10, the E6520 seems ok so far (setting it up now). Sales get to replace their laptops twice per year. IT, every 5 years (at best). I don't need brand new so I just take the replacement gear. Saves the company money while sales is spending money like it is going out of style. One person in marketing has had three MacBooks at one point recently. That's right, three. I think she is down to two... Plus a Windows laptop. Sales and marketing really push me to the edge of my sanity with all the demands for Apple products. If it was justified, sure. Go ahead, but "well...Mac. I work better on a Mac. Macs don't get viruses. It is faster. It just works." Zero validity in that argument and I hear that crap every argument.
Sorry. Ranting over here.
So a Sales guy that could likely work from a chrome book gets the most expensive mac..
We had that here too though sales guys get macs if they want them (if their managers approve) but they have to stay within the same budget a windows computer would be bought for.. And we don't do VMs with windows clients if you do that we end up paying double and might as well get a windows computer.
Definitely not the most expensive. The CEO's setup (x3 Apple Cinema displays, Mac Pro all decked out, etc) all came out to about $7500 I believe. But he is the CEO. So, whatever.
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I like Apple's hardware design the look is very sleek, and their systems often run pretty well compared the a lot of the "Windows Manufacturers" (asus, acer, dell hp lenovo) that are around.
But I just can't stand their operating system. If I bought a Mac I'd immediately bootcamp it for Windows or Linux.
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@DustinB3403 said:
I like Apple's hardware design the look is very sleek, and their systems often run pretty well compared the a lot of the "Windows Manufacturers" (asus, acer, dell hp lenovo) that are around.
But I just can't stand their operating system. If I bought a Mac I'd immediately bootcamp it for Windows or Linux.
Haha their hardware is the same as the super cheap ones.. It's by foxconn, not apple. Foxconn makes the cheapest ones from all of them.
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@BBigford said:
@Jason said:
@BBigford said:
@Jason said:
@BBigford said:
I had to give a user a quote for a MacBook Pro. They need dedicated graphics and I went to look at Apple for a build-to-buy. Looks like they really slimmed that down. The only one that doesn't just have Iris graphics is their highest end model for $2499.99 ....
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
I think Amazon has one slightly cheaper than that that has AMD r9 + iris 16gb of ram, 512gb SSD. I'd say don't get one unless there's a really good reason. Editing video and needing pro res codec is about the only reason these days. Most video work and all audio and graphics work is now better on windows
No there is absolutely no justified reason for buying it. They ended up getting every top of the line spec (~$3200 plus extras). But when it's for someone in sales, we really have zero pull since they are babied around here. They have quantifiable evidence of how much money they make the company. Whatever. I still use 3 year old monitors and a Latitude E6410. I just got in some laptops people are replacing with brand new ones so I can choose between a Latitude E6520 or M6600 (weighty, but the video card is pretty good, and bigger screen). Neither has support for Windows 10. I know the M6600 does terrible with Win10, the E6520 seems ok so far (setting it up now). Sales get to replace their laptops twice per year. IT, every 5 years (at best). I don't need brand new so I just take the replacement gear. Saves the company money while sales is spending money like it is going out of style. One person in marketing has had three MacBooks at one point recently. That's right, three. I think she is down to two... Plus a Windows laptop. Sales and marketing really push me to the edge of my sanity with all the demands for Apple products. If it was justified, sure. Go ahead, but "well...Mac. I work better on a Mac. Macs don't get viruses. It is faster. It just works." Zero validity in that argument and I hear that crap every argument.
Sorry. Ranting over here.
So a Sales guy that could likely work from a chrome book gets the most expensive mac..
We had that here too though sales guys get macs if they want them (if their managers approve) but they have to stay within the same budget a windows computer would be bought for.. And we don't do VMs with windows clients if you do that we end up paying double and might as well get a windows computer.
Definitely not the most expensive. The CEO's setup (x3 Apple Cinema displays, Mac Pro all decked out, etc) all came out to about $7500 I believe. But he is the CEO. So, whatever.
Wow. Dumb. Our CEO has the same Dell laptop, monitors and dock as everyone else.
We aren't big on over spending.
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Oh I know it's from foxconn. But the hardware testing that they put into the components is what makes it run well.
Not who makes the hardware.
