Rocket Chat vs. Jabber

scottalanmiller

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

bbigford

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

Dashrender

@dafyre said:

My Last place used openFire exclusively for internal stuff. I may switch my family from Skype over to RocketChat.

why manage your own (unless you're not) and instead use telegram?

dafyre

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

There's an AD module for it.

bbigford

@Dashrender said:

@dafyre said:

My Last place used openFire exclusively for internal stuff. I may switch my family from Skype over to RocketChat.

why manage your own (unless you're not) and instead use telegram?

100% required by customer contracts. No internal communication can be hosted by a provider. Has to be something on-premise.

coliver

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

OpenFire can talk to AD. It is actually a really easy setup.

bbigford

Maybe I'll look at Rocket or OF then. SfB is still being pushed hard by some, but recent events have me looking into another direction entirely.

scottalanmiller

@coliver said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

OpenFire can talk to AD. It is actually a really easy setup.

Seems like most everyone uses that way.

coliver

@scottalanmiller said:

@coliver said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

OpenFire can talk to AD. It is actually a really easy setup.

Seems like most everyone uses that way.

The one complaint I had when playing with it was the I couldn't auto-populate a contact list.

Jason

@BBigford said:

@Dashrender said:

@dafyre said:

My Last place used openFire exclusively for internal stuff. I may switch my family from Skype over to RocketChat.

why manage your own (unless you're not) and instead use telegram?

100% required by customer contracts. No internal communication can be hosted by a provider. Has to be something on-premise.

What IP Phone system do you have? Many do or can do XMPP.. even Asterisk can I believe.

travisdh1

@coliver said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

OpenFire can talk to AD. It is actually a really easy setup.

I don't even have AD deployed yet, but I do have an openfire server connected to a SAMBA4 DC. It makes me want to AD connect all the things.

bbigford

@travisdh1 said:

@coliver said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

OpenFire can talk to AD. It is actually a really easy setup.

I don't even have AD deployed yet, but I do have an openfire server connected to a SAMBA4 DC. It makes me want to AD connect all the things.

Do you have so few users that you don't use any kind of central directory (not necessarily AD, could be openLDAP or whatever)?

travisdh1

@BBigford said:

@travisdh1 said:

@coliver said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

OpenFire can talk to AD. It is actually a really easy setup.

I don't even have AD deployed yet, but I do have an openfire server connected to a SAMBA4 DC. It makes me want to AD connect all the things.

Do you have so few users that you don't use any kind of central directory (not necessarily AD, could be openLDAP or whatever)?

7 users, 10 computers. So not having AD/LDAP isn't a complete nightmare. I do want to make so files just follow people rather than being stuck on a workstation tho, it'll make backups a sight easier as well.

wirestyle22

@travisdh1 said:

@BBigford said:

@travisdh1 said:

@coliver said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

OpenFire can talk to AD. It is actually a really easy setup.

I don't even have AD deployed yet, but I do have an openfire server connected to a SAMBA4 DC. It makes me want to AD connect all the things.

Do you have so few users that you don't use any kind of central directory (not necessarily AD, could be openLDAP or whatever)?

7 users, 10 computers. So not having AD/LDAP isn't a complete nightmare. I do want to make so files just follow people rather than being stuck on a workstation tho, it'll make backups a sight easier as well.

File Server?

scottalanmiller

@travisdh1 said:

@coliver said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

OpenFire can talk to AD. It is actually a really easy setup.

I don't even have AD deployed yet, but I do have an openfire server connected to a SAMBA4 DC. It makes me want to AD connect all the things.

So you have AD only for OpenFIre?

travisdh1

@scottalanmiller said:

@travisdh1 said:

@coliver said:

@BBigford said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

I forgot to add.. preferably something that we can use to pull from Active Directory without extreme difficulty. I can allocate some time to this project, but I'm looking for something that has a fairly small footprint and doesn't require tons of time to setup (basically, the opposite of SfB).

I think that pretty much everything talks to AD these days.

Except OpenFire, right? Have to add everyone manually... Or is there a module for that now?

OpenFire can talk to AD. It is actually a really easy setup.

I don't even have AD deployed yet, but I do have an openfire server connected to a SAMBA4 DC. It makes me want to AD connect all the things.

So you have AD only for OpenFIre?

Currently yes, sad as it is. I just need to add users and computers at this point. I've had other things come up that management wants done first.

bbigford

7 users for AD? Noooo thank you.

scottalanmiller

@BBigford said:

7 users for AD? Noooo thank you.

That would be my take. I'd just manage them individually. Even MS doesn't recommend rolling it out at that size.

bbigford

@scottalanmiller said:

@BBigford said:

7 users for AD? Noooo thank you.

That would be my take. I'd just manage them individually. Even MS doesn't recommend rolling it out at that size.

I managed a SBS2011 server (took over) for a user base of about 12 people and as many PCs. Came with rolled up Exchange/AD/etc. Some said it was super convenient. I thought it was a damn nightmare. When that server went down, all operations halted. Before I came, there were no UPSs either, just plugged right into the wall, no battery backup. When the power went out, the databases were guillotined. The horror!

scottalanmiller

And twelve is considered the inflection point where you would normally use AD (but not Exchange on premises) for user management.