Wiping Data or Shredding the Drive
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@scottalanmiller said:
@DustinB3403 said:
@scottalanmiller In comparison to using wiping software to rid the disk of the data.
A tree shredder is cheaper in comparison to the time and money to properly wipe the disk.
A drive would shred a tree shredder. The cost of a shredder than can survive disk destruction is very high and the tooth replacement rate goes way up.
I tree shredder is mechanically different than the offset 'gear' shredded needed for a hard drive.
I worked for a company out of Florida years ago called Shred-all. The shredder we had was a beast. 14 plates in a row offset with another row. the plates were 1/4inch 'teeth'. It was run by a 60 HP 3 phase motor that was geared 600:1 (or so).
It would eat just about anything that got into the teeth. we lost a few tools and brooms in it. Someone thought it funny to drop a wrench in it,.. it bounced around a bit as it went through and chipped a few of the teeth, but kept going.
But to do Hard drive,,.. you'd need steel plates.. Alum just won't do.
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For me, I run the DoD level using either GDISK or DBAN - either a custom pass or the 'normal' 7 pass write. IF the disk works.
If it fails, and it's MY HD - I'll pull it apart. I've thought about making up some Thermite but haven't done so. I've seen people make their own destroyer out of a bottle jack and a cold chisel.....
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@gjacobse I hope that the company made them buy that wrench and pay for the damage to the teeth.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@JaredBusch said:
The paper shredding company that one of my clients uses accepts hard drives.
They only stipulate that you let them know in advance so that they can schedule it as either the first of last stop for the shredding vehicle.
Large scale paper shredding is one of the hardest things for a shredder to handle. The famous test was just throwing phone books in them. Those things are murder on shredders.
Actually plain white paper is harder. Phone books are printed on 'newsprint' paper.. a really soft paper.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@gjacobse I hope that the company made them buy that wrench and pay for the damage to the teeth.
lol,.. I think it only chipped like one tooth, and it wasn't enough to slow that beast down.
My best on it was shredding, and bailing about 1700 pounds of paper. Most times we ran three people on it. Two on the infeeder, one on the fork truck / bailer to tie it up.
I should have died in that job three times. Just about rolled the lift, had a 1600lbs bale of paper fall on the lift, and about lost a finger... Boiled over the lift loading a 53' trailer... had to get it out the bay as there was another 53' trailer to load too...
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The local place around here charges $5 to shred a drive. I shred when they are EOL, or small enough that I don't care about them.
I DBAN if I'm going to reuse.
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But I've also used them for target practice. I'm personally not worried about the government trying to recover the data on the drives. And I'm not worried about normal criminals trying to recover data because the cost involved would most likely be higher than the value of the data gained.
Drilling/shooting, totally fine in my opinion.
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@Dashrender said:
But I've also used them for target practice. I'm personally not worried about the government trying to recover the data on the drives. And I'm not worried about normal criminals trying to recover data because the cost involved would most likely be higher than the value of the data gained.
Drilling/shooting, totally fine in my opinion.
Shooting gives you a little stress relief too!
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@brianlittlejohn Can confirm. Recommend only rifle calibers for solid penetration. Shotgun slugs are also HIGHLY recommended. Compete for distance & best flip with your buddies.
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Rifle round for complete destruction. I had a WD stop .40 handgun round.
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I can't say that I've ever been so upset at something that I've need to shoot it.
But that's just me.
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@DustinB3403 Being upset is not required to enjoy shooting. But shooting at targets is much better than shooting at people.
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~But people can dodge, duck dive and dodge.....
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If you can dodge a wrench...
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Someone gets it!
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If you can dodge a car!
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@MattSpeller said:
@brianlittlejohn Can confirm. Recommend only rifle calibers for solid penetration. Shotgun slugs are also HIGHLY recommended. Compete for distance & best flip with your buddies.
Using these:
However at $3 a round, it might be a little pricy.
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@johnhooks Probably considering how few drives those might actually go through....
You'd be better of purchasing a bearing press, and high powered magnets.
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@DustinB3403 said:
@johnhooks Probably considering how few drives those might actually go through....
You'd be better of purchasing a bearing press, and high powered magnets.
They're solid steel. They'll go through. The plastic never holds up like in the picture, the petals come off.
