So apparently ManageEngine ServiceDesk can run on Linux: https://www.manageengine.com/products/service-desk/help/adminguide/introduction/installation-linux.html. I may have to spin this up and see if I can retire Jira.

Patch all the things!!!!

http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2016/02/extremely-severe-bug-leaves-dizzying-number-of-apps-and-devices-vulnerable/

On a slightly related note, I was very surprised to see that in season 6 of Parks and Rec they started using Windows phones exclusively, and what appears to be a Surface. I'm curious if this will continue to the end of the series (still in season 6).

I'm replaying Fable: TLC, and I think that Anniversary would be better if only because of controller support. I prefer keyboard/mouse inputs, but console ports don't always translate well, and this one suffers somewhat from that.

@dafyre and @scottalanmiller I agree with your statements regarding the fundamentals. The number of IT pros that I have encountered who do not understand subnetting is disappointing. That being said, I think that the problems start when you leave the basics. Using your example in the OP @scottalanmiller, you had never heard of a given tool that a customer considered normative. I'm running in to this on a nearly daily basis as I transition from Windows Admin to Linux Admin. I have no idea what is normative (other than what is mentioned here and elsewhere), and that is a moving target at best.

@dafyre said:

@hobbit666 said:

This is interesting as I've been wondering about this sort of thing.

Example, Scott has been discussing with me in another thread about thinking about a LANless setup. Question is how and where do I learn this sort of thinking from. I'm self taught in all areas of IT so I still think in terms of LAN/WAN as that's what I've been doing for 14+ years, but where do you get the ideas and guidance on new ways of thinking? Is it from attending things like Spiceworld or other conferences? Or are there good online resources to see what people are doing and how?

As iron sharpens iron, so does one person sharpen another.

I've learned more from folks like @scottalanmiller in the short time I have interacted with him on here and in Spiceworks than I have the last 10 years I've spent in IT.

The biggest issue with these communities is becoming a monoculture. If any one person or group of people dominates the discussion without room for new ideas and approaches a community becomes part of the problem. This is not a passive aggressive way for me to call someone out, just something for everyone here to be careful of.

At the lowest levels things are relatively unchanged. We are still using binary for computation. Most of the physical systems are, in essence, comparable to what was used 10, 20 years ago. But if you compare it to medicine for example the complexities seem larger in comparison. In medicine you constantly have to learn new drugs and techniques, but the thing you're working on remains unchanged. In addition, your day-to-day, entry level tools remain the same. In IT, aside from the most basic of diagnosis (ping, traceroute, nslookup, etc.) the tools change rapidly.

I'm not saying this isn't a worthy goal, and should not be attempted, just that it is daunting to contemplate.

The scope of what you're proposing is mind boggling. It would take an organization simply to maintain it given the pace of change in IT (and the breadth of the application of that title). I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, or isn't a worthy cause, but I do not know how you would do this on a practical level.

Ok, I can now copy. Thanks for all the help. I have learned a lot in just this one issue.

@johnhooks said:

https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5153 This person had the same issue

Is there an openssh-clients package to install? I don't have a 6.7 server running to test on.

That was it. I had the below installed:

openssh-5.3p1-112.el6_7.x86_64
openssh-server-5.3p1-112.el6_7.x86_64

I ran yum install openssh-clients and now I have scp available. I'm going to test to see if this means I can now scp the file across.

I ran across that forum post as well, but both the OpenSSH-client and OpenSSH-server packages are installed.

@scottalanmiller said:

@Kelly said:

I'm not seeing much difference between Anniversary and TLC, other than people complaining of performance issues in Anniversary.

I like the graphics a little better. Overall, pretty close.

I've been thinking about reinstalling TLC. Maybe I will after I finish my current game of Civ:BE.

@NattNatt said:

@Kelly said:

I really wish they'd release Fable 2 on the PC. I played that a long time ago on the 360, and I enjoyed it the most of the series.

I know it's not the same...but is there not an emulator for it..?

I don't have Fable 2. I borrowed it from a friend who subsequently got rid of it. I may have to see if I can get my hands on a copy though.

I really wish they'd release Fable 2 on the PC. I played that a long time ago on the 360, and I enjoyed it the most of the series.

I'm not seeing much difference between Anniversary and TLC, other than people complaining of performance issues in Anniversary.

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@JaredBusch said:

@scottalanmiller said:

Code blocks is just for spaces at the beginning of a line.

That is a shortcut for single line.

A full block is three backticks on a line by itself, then the code, then three backticks on a line by itself to close it.

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@johnhooks said:

@Kelly said:

No joy. I'm still getting the same output when I run just scp or which scp.

On both servers or just one?

I'm trying to copy from my MBP to the server, and I'm just getting that on the remote server.

@scottalanmiller said:

What is the history on this remote server? What was installed, what modified since it was put in?

Brand new, clean install. The only thing I've done on it is run updates.

No joy. I'm still getting the same output when I run just scp or which scp.