@Dashrender said:

@Kelly said:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle#Supporting-the-latest-processor

So what though?

Assuming that the predecessor for Skylake comes out before July 2017, then MS should release support for it as well, though it's possible they won't. You'll have all the support you need for Skylake long before the 2017 deadline.

It's not like on the deadline they are going to roll out a patch that removes the support they have already created.

Skylake won't be getting any development at all from Intel, let alone MS, for over a year before this deadline. Heck, is Intel doing any development now with regards to Skylake? It's already made, being sold. It's in the pipe. I suppose they could make more chips different speeds based on the tech, and while doing so add in more features - but can they really? Would it be Skylake anymore if they add new features not already listed as part of Skylake?

I'm stating that the vendor isn't stating anything incorrect. They're not lying. This is what Microsoft is actually stating. In effect Microsoft is stating that they will not release security patches for non Win10 versions that are running on the listed processors. Yes, your computer will not cease working, but you will not be patched.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle#Supporting-the-latest-processor

This is actually correct. Microsoft isn't going to be patching OS's older than 10 on the newest processors.

I believe you can bypass DirSync for this, and just create them in O365 directly.

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

Is it just an SMTP entry on the user?

Would that work? I haven't been able to add SMTP addresses to the unlicensed users.

So Group 2 logs into Tenant 1 with a Tenant 1 address or a Tenant 2 address?

Group 2 doesn't log into Tenant 1. They have an account and can login via the @domain.onmicrosoft.com identifier. They are also a mail user on Tenant 1.

Let me see if I am understanding you by outlining things as I understand them, and then you can correct me as needed.

[email protected] also has [email protected] that they can login to and mail they receive there is forwarded to [email protected]?
You want to set things up so that [email protected] can login to Tenant 2 and receive email from their Tenant2.onmicrosoft.com email address?

Pretty much this, expect that users don't realize they have accounts in both places.

Why not generate the tenant2.onmicrosoft.com accounts using powershell. You can also set the forwarding up in your script:
Set-Mailbox -Identity Alias -DeliverToMailboxAndForward $true -ForwardingSMTPAddress forwarding@address

The Tenant2 users we want to forward don't have a mailbox. They are unlicensed users.

Ok, I think I'm not getting what you're trying to achieve? Is this just so that the Tenant2 users show up in the GAL, or something else?

Exactly that.

Why not add them as New-MailContacts?

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

Is it just an SMTP entry on the user?

Would that work? I haven't been able to add SMTP addresses to the unlicensed users.

So Group 2 logs into Tenant 1 with a Tenant 1 address or a Tenant 2 address?

Group 2 doesn't log into Tenant 1. They have an account and can login via the @domain.onmicrosoft.com identifier. They are also a mail user on Tenant 1.

Let me see if I am understanding you by outlining things as I understand them, and then you can correct me as needed.

[email protected] also has [email protected] that they can login to and mail they receive there is forwarded to [email protected]?
You want to set things up so that [email protected] can login to Tenant 2 and receive email from their Tenant2.onmicrosoft.com email address?

Pretty much this, expect that users don't realize they have accounts in both places.

Why not generate the tenant2.onmicrosoft.com accounts using powershell. You can also set the forwarding up in your script:
Set-Mailbox -Identity Alias -DeliverToMailboxAndForward $true -ForwardingSMTPAddress forwarding@address

The Tenant2 users we want to forward don't have a mailbox. They are unlicensed users.

Ok, I think I'm not getting what you're trying to achieve? Is this just so that the Tenant2 users show up in the GAL, or something else?

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

Is it just an SMTP entry on the user?

Would that work? I haven't been able to add SMTP addresses to the unlicensed users.

So Group 2 logs into Tenant 1 with a Tenant 1 address or a Tenant 2 address?

Group 2 doesn't log into Tenant 1. They have an account and can login via the @domain.onmicrosoft.com identifier. They are also a mail user on Tenant 1.

Let me see if I am understanding you by outlining things as I understand them, and then you can correct me as needed.

[email protected] also has [email protected] that they can login to and mail they receive there is forwarded to [email protected]?
You want to set things up so that [email protected] can login to Tenant 2 and receive email from their Tenant2.onmicrosoft.com email address?

Pretty much this, expect that users don't realize they have accounts in both places.

Why not generate the tenant2.onmicrosoft.com accounts using powershell. You can also set the forwarding up in your script:
Set-Mailbox -Identity Alias -DeliverToMailboxAndForward $true -ForwardingSMTPAddress forwarding@address

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

Is it just an SMTP entry on the user?

Would that work? I haven't been able to add SMTP addresses to the unlicensed users.

So Group 2 logs into Tenant 1 with a Tenant 1 address or a Tenant 2 address?

Group 2 doesn't log into Tenant 1. They have an account and can login via the @domain.onmicrosoft.com identifier. They are also a mail user on Tenant 1.

Let me see if I am understanding you by outlining things as I understand them, and then you can correct me as needed.

[email protected] also has [email protected] that they can login to and mail they receive there is forwarded to [email protected]?
You want to set things up so that [email protected] can login to Tenant 2 and receive email from their Tenant2.onmicrosoft.com email address?

@coliver said:

@Kelly said:

Is it just an SMTP entry on the user?

Would that work? I haven't been able to add SMTP addresses to the unlicensed users.

So Group 2 logs into Tenant 1 with a Tenant 1 address or a Tenant 2 address?

Is it just an SMTP entry on the user?

@RojoLoco said:

@Kelly aww, it's not on sale anymore. Or did you have a coupon code or something?

It was a coupon in my Steam inventory.

@scottalanmiller said:

I have that one, have only played a little bit I like it.

While I was playing it I was thinking you'd like it with your penchant for story oriented games.

Linkages: http://store.steampowered.com/app/294860/.

So I picked up Valkyria Chronicles due to the 75% off coupon, and I have to say this is a good melding of story and gameplay. So far it looks like it deserves all the glowing reviews on Steam. It is a story game set in a world based heavily on late 1930's Europe. In it there is extensive dialog interspersed with turn based, third person shooter action. If it sounds odd, you're right. On the other hand, it works well. Basically you get a turn with a limited number of command points. You spend CPs to allow your characters to perform actions. When you select to spend a CP on a character you then switch to a third person view where you can move freely within the bounds of your character's Action Points. At any point within that you can perform an action, e.g. fire a gun, throw a grenade, heal, etc. Where it diverges further from an XCom style game is that while a character is moving, any enemy that has LOS on it will be firing at them, so don't run out in front of a tank or a machine gunner.

There are RPG, character building elements I understand, but I haven't gotten to them yet. The UI is a little clunk because the game was originally released for the PS3, and then ported to PC. It is one of the best ports I've run across though.

Anyhow, this is well worth the $5 in my opinion.

@scottalanmiller said:

@Kelly said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Kelly said:

@Breffni-Potter I think it would depend on what you were valuing. If you're looking at going to a tech conference and a chance to meet vendors I think it would be a terrible value.

Meeting vendors works really well. You just have to know how to do it. At the conference proper (all there is in London) or the "no talking" official events you get almost no chance to talk. If you go with the crowds to the unofficial events, you get tons of access to vendors with time to talk.

I was responding specifically to @Breffni-Potter's question about the value to him. As a UK based MSP, American sales reps aren't going to provide him much, if any, value.

I don't know if that is true. Most of the ones at the UK event are American ones anyway. Katie and Richard are US based. Brian from Scale is German and does the US events, that isn't an issue here. I think the country basis isn't as big as you'd think. AetherStore is nearly 100% European staff.

Perhaps not. However, what I stated reflects my experience at SWL. With the exception of the vendors that were primarily US based, they either weren't interested in engaging or weren't capable of reframing their information. I was actually interested in the offerings from one vendor who was international, but despite asking them to put me in contact with a local sales rep I kept getting UK regionalised information and pricing.

@scottalanmiller said:

@Kelly said:

@Breffni-Potter I think it would depend on what you were valuing. If you're looking at going to a tech conference and a chance to meet vendors I think it would be a terrible value.

Meeting vendors works really well. You just have to know how to do it. At the conference proper (all there is in London) or the "no talking" official events you get almost no chance to talk. If you go with the crowds to the unofficial events, you get tons of access to vendors with time to talk.

I was responding specifically to @Breffni-Potter's question about the value to him. As a UK based MSP, American sales reps aren't going to provide him much, if any, value.

@Carnival-Boy said:

I guess these events are great for networking but unfortunately networking isn't a skill I've ever managed to master.

I wondered about this before my first SpiceWorld, but I realized that it was more like meeting up with friends I'd never met in person before. I wasn't networking. I was just hanging out.

@scottalanmiller said:

@Kelly said:

There are more person to person interactions with vendors and Spiceworks staff, and not just a booth crawl.

there is an epic booth crawl, but those of us in the know just skip that. I don't visit the booths t all.

I meant that the interactions consist of more than just the booth crawl.

@Breffni-Potter said:

@scottalanmiller said:

@Breffni-Potter said:

@scottalanmiller said:

The event was well done, but the interactions didn't exist and there was just "nothing" to it. No one talked to each other

Apart from a few cliques who I keep seeing buddying up with each other, I had a lot of chats with different faces. And they were not vendors

The total time for talking was a tiny fraction that of Austin. If you've not done Austin, I doubt you understand the level of social interaction. The London event was so much "less" both per day and in total.

Never done Austin. But is the value high enough to warrant flights & time?

@Breffni-Potter I think it would depend on what you were valuing. If you're looking at going to a tech conference and a chance to meet vendors I think it would be a terrible value. This is what I found at SWL last year. As a tech conference and a chance to connect with vendors it was a waste of time. The sessions are either marketing crap or technical fluff. The vendors would be US oriented and unacquainted with what it is like to work in the SMB outside of the states. If you're going to meet other IT professionals, network, and have a good time with peers that you've never met in person, it is a good value. I mostly had a good time in London last year, and some of it was talking with vendors, but it was never about the vendors products. Richard@webroot, Katie@Unitrends, Joe@Lenovo, etc., were all great people, not just sales drones. I think that is one of the differences at SWA. There are more person to person interactions with vendors and Spiceworks staff, and not just a booth crawl.

@Dashrender said:

@Kelly said:

The only other thing is if the information stored on it falls under HIPAA. I haven't looked at it that closely, but it may have something regarding the age or patch status of systems that would put you out of compliance regardless of how secure your implementation is.

You can mitigate those patches by not having the network connect to anything of concern, basically, be an island.

That's good. I wasn't sure if HIPAA was sane in that regard. I've run afoul of a few compliance requirements that were not so flexible in their destruction of actual security in the name of compliance.