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    Intel NUC Kit - The Prefect Home Lab Server?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!

      prodigy

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Can that fit a full size GPU?

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!

          prodigy

          This is a better case for a NAS 😄 I do like the Prodigy, but yes it leaves some stuff to be desired
          http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112339

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            Can that fit a full size GPU?

            If you remove some of the HD cages yes

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!

              prodigy

              if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?

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              • coliverC
                coliver @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Can that fit a full size GPU?

                Yes, with room to spare.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!

                  prodigy

                  if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?

                  I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
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                    @coliver said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Can that fit a full size GPU?

                    Yes, with room to spare.

                    Nice. Thanks.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @coliver
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                      @coliver said:

                      I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.

                      I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @coliver said:

                        I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.

                        I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?

                        Oh, agreed it would be a pain, although the side does come off easily. I was responding to @Dashrender about not having hotswap with software RAID.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                          @coliver said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @coliver said:

                          I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.

                          I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?

                          Oh, agreed it would be a pain, although the side does come off easily. I was responding to @Dashrender about not having hotswap with software RAID.

                          Oh, yes the software has hot swap, no issue there. But you need a hot swap chassis or else you damage the equipment!

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?

                            All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?

                              All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.

                              What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?

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                              • gjacobseG
                                gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @iroal said:

                                The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...

                                I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.

                                This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.

                                The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                  @coliver said:

                                  What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?

                                  Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                                    last edited by

                                    @gjacobse said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @iroal said:

                                    The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...

                                    I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.

                                    This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.

                                    The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.

                                    If you just need more monitors and not heavy GPU processing, can't you just use the USB-C output?

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                                    • gjacobseG
                                      gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @gjacobse said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @iroal said:

                                      The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...

                                      I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.

                                      This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.

                                      The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.

                                      If you just need more monitors and not heavy GPU processing, can't you just use the USB-C output?

                                      Suppose you could - with additional cables / adapters.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @coliver said:

                                        What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?

                                        Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.

                                        Are those enterprise software RAIDs?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?

                                          Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.

                                          Are those enterprise software RAIDs?

                                          Sorry, thought you asked what NON-enterprise ones are there 🙂

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            All the OS software RAID is enterprise (Windows software RAID is the only questionable one and that's a grey area and does hot swap anyway) like MD, ZFS, BtrFS... every enterprise OS (Windows being a semi-exception) has enterprise software RAID built in and has for decades. AIX, HP-UX, Solaris (on Sparc), mainframes, etc. have no other options but software RAID.

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