Intel NUC Kit - The Prefect Home Lab Server?
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@LAH3385 said:
@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
Yes, you need to add memory and a SSD, in same models you can add and Msata SSD and a 2.5" Harddisk simultaneously
So if the base is $380, a decent SSD is $100 and memory is $70 (which is REALLY high) we are looking at $550 for a recent, very fast Intel i5 processor, 32GB of RAM or more and a screaming fast, current SSD desktop? It's not "OMG how did it get so cheap" but it sounds like a good deal to me, overall.
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
But don't get me wrong, I love Intel Nuc, I think my next desktop computer at home will be a Nuc.
The reason I would got with Intel Nuc is its size. I would not plan on expanding anything even if it does come with PCI-E lanes. If graphic cards, sound cards, and other modular components come into play I would get Corsair Compact Case with an ATX motherboard instead. It might cost about the same base price as Intel NUC, but Intel NUC appeals me most with its compact size.
Bottom line question would be what do you plan to use Intel NUC for?I like the Bitfenix prodigy's too
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@wirestyle22 said:
@LAH3385 said:
@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
Yes, you need to add memory and a SSD, in same models you can add and Msata SSD and a 2.5" Harddisk simultaneously
So if the base is $380, a decent SSD is $100 and memory is $70 (which is REALLY high) we are looking at $550 for a recent, very fast Intel i5 processor, 32GB of RAM or more and a screaming fast, current SSD desktop? It's not "OMG how did it get so cheap" but it sounds like a good deal to me, overall.
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
But don't get me wrong, I love Intel Nuc, I think my next desktop computer at home will be a Nuc.
The reason I would got with Intel Nuc is its size. I would not plan on expanding anything even if it does come with PCI-E lanes. If graphic cards, sound cards, and other modular components come into play I would get Corsair Compact Case with an ATX motherboard instead. It might cost about the same base price as Intel NUC, but Intel NUC appeals me most with its compact size.
Bottom line question would be what do you plan to use Intel NUC for?I like the Bitfenix prodigy's too
I've got one of those... was going to make a NAS from it but now it just sits there... I may try and make a steam box or some kind of emulator. The processor leaves a bit to be desired though.
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@coliver said:
@wirestyle22 said:
@LAH3385 said:
@iroal said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
Yes, you need to add memory and a SSD, in same models you can add and Msata SSD and a 2.5" Harddisk simultaneously
So if the base is $380, a decent SSD is $100 and memory is $70 (which is REALLY high) we are looking at $550 for a recent, very fast Intel i5 processor, 32GB of RAM or more and a screaming fast, current SSD desktop? It's not "OMG how did it get so cheap" but it sounds like a good deal to me, overall.
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
But don't get me wrong, I love Intel Nuc, I think my next desktop computer at home will be a Nuc.
The reason I would got with Intel Nuc is its size. I would not plan on expanding anything even if it does come with PCI-E lanes. If graphic cards, sound cards, and other modular components come into play I would get Corsair Compact Case with an ATX motherboard instead. It might cost about the same base price as Intel NUC, but Intel NUC appeals me most with its compact size.
Bottom line question would be what do you plan to use Intel NUC for?I like the Bitfenix prodigy's too
I've got one of those... was going to make a NAS from it but now it just sits there... I may try and make a steam box or some kind of emulator. The processor leaves a bit to be desired though.
It's almost perfect for a NAS. Ton of Bays. I built a gaming PC for my ex girlfriend that was a blue prodigy. The small form factor was wanted. Could've been smaller but I liked the case and she did too.
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By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!
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Can that fit a full size GPU?
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@scottalanmiller said:
By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!
This is a better case for a NAS
I do like the Prodigy, but yes it leaves some stuff to be desired
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112339 -
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@scottalanmiller said:
By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Can that fit a full size GPU?
Yes, with room to spare.
Nice. Thanks.
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@coliver said:
I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.
I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.
I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?
Oh, agreed it would be a pain, although the side does come off easily. I was responding to @Dashrender about not having hotswap with software RAID.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.
I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?
Oh, agreed it would be a pain, although the side does come off easily. I was responding to @Dashrender about not having hotswap with software RAID.
Oh, yes the software has hot swap, no issue there. But you need a hot swap chassis or else you damage the equipment!
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@Dashrender said:
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.
This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.
The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.
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@coliver said:
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.
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@gjacobse said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.
This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.
The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.
If you just need more monitors and not heavy GPU processing, can't you just use the USB-C output?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@gjacobse said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.
This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.
The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.
If you just need more monitors and not heavy GPU processing, can't you just use the USB-C output?
Suppose you could - with additional cables / adapters.
