Intel NUC Kit - The Prefect Home Lab Server?
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.
I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?
Oh, agreed it would be a pain, although the side does come off easily. I was responding to @Dashrender about not having hotswap with software RAID.
Oh, yes the software has hot swap, no issue there. But you need a hot swap chassis or else you damage the equipment!
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@Dashrender said:
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?
All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.
This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.
The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.
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@coliver said:
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.
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@gjacobse said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.
This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.
The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.
If you just need more monitors and not heavy GPU processing, can't you just use the USB-C output?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@gjacobse said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@iroal said:
The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...
I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.
This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.
The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.
If you just need more monitors and not heavy GPU processing, can't you just use the USB-C output?
Suppose you could - with additional cables / adapters.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.
Are those enterprise software RAIDs?
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.
Are those enterprise software RAIDs?
Sorry, thought you asked what NON-enterprise ones are there
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All the OS software RAID is enterprise (Windows software RAID is the only questionable one and that's a grey area and does hot swap anyway) like MD, ZFS, BtrFS... every enterprise OS (Windows being a semi-exception) has enterprise software RAID built in and has for decades. AIX, HP-UX, Solaris (on Sparc), mainframes, etc. have no other options but software RAID.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?
Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.
Are those enterprise software RAIDs?
Sorry, thought you asked what NON-enterprise ones are there
Nah, you mentioned all enterprise software RAID. The only I know about is MD-RAID. Was curious what else was on the market.
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ZFS is often considered the gold standard for software RAID. Not as old as MD but has more features, like RAID 5.3/7 which no one else has and variable width striping. It's generally minor stuff, but gives it a slight edge in quality. BtrFS is expected to go toe to toe with it soon. MD is among the best.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@LAH3385 said:
Wait for Skull Canyon. it features quadcore i7.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/skull-canyon-nuc-ces-2016/That is what I am getting for Black Friday purchase. Install with Samsung 950Pro. xD
Nice. What are the limitations of using an external GPU dock in that way? That could make for a good, portable gaming system.
Most external docks require some type of proprietary connection on both the external dock, and the device it connects to (making the dock wildly expensive when you factor in it also requires a GPU to be purchased). Aside from that, the connectors sometimes experience bandwidth constraint, when you compare it to PCI-E. For proprietary, Alienware comes to mind and at $200 just for the dock (initially released for $300), that's a bit difficult for me to swallow. http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/alienware-graphics-amplifier?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&sku=452-BBRG&redirect=1​
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Yeah, I looked into it and it just doesn't cut it for gaming.
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Those reviews don't look that great.
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@wirestyle22 NUC
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@wrx7m said:
@wirestyle22 NUC
Seems like a lot of failures but I take reviews with a grain of salt unless I know the person (or of the person) giving the review.
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@wirestyle22 Sure, you have to read the reason they are complaining. Some are really dumb reasons but that is why I always read the 1-2 stars first. The way I see this one, is first it is only 3.5 ish stars. Second, there are only 13 reviews so I can't really get a broad enough sample. Third, the low ratings are complaining of failures. Fourth, the first review I read said that they changed their review to a lower rating because they must have also gotten a lemon.
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We just had this with a rental car thing. Every negative review was someone doing something clearly wrong and pissed that the rental car company charged them for something that they screwed up.
