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    • iroalI
      iroal @LAH3385
      last edited by

      I forgot to say that is super silent, you know It's on for the light, and with a very low power consumption.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @LAH3385
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        @LAH3385 said:

        @iroal said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @iroal said:

        Yes, you need to add memory and a SSD, in same models you can add and Msata SSD and a 2.5" Harddisk simultaneously

        So if the base is $380, a decent SSD is $100 and memory is $70 (which is REALLY high) we are looking at $550 for a recent, very fast Intel i5 processor, 32GB of RAM or more and a screaming fast, current SSD desktop? It's not "OMG how did it get so cheap" but it sounds like a good deal to me, overall.

        The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...

        But don't get me wrong, I love Intel Nuc, I think my next desktop computer at home will be a Nuc.

        The reason I would got with Intel Nuc is its size. I would not plan on expanding anything even if it does come with PCI-E lanes. If graphic cards, sound cards, and other modular components come into play I would get Corsair Compact Case with an ATX motherboard instead. It might cost about the same base price as Intel NUC, but Intel NUC appeals me most with its compact size.
        Bottom line question would be what do you plan to use Intel NUC for?

        I like the Bitfenix prodigy's too

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        • coliverC
          coliver @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said:

          @LAH3385 said:

          @iroal said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @iroal said:

          Yes, you need to add memory and a SSD, in same models you can add and Msata SSD and a 2.5" Harddisk simultaneously

          So if the base is $380, a decent SSD is $100 and memory is $70 (which is REALLY high) we are looking at $550 for a recent, very fast Intel i5 processor, 32GB of RAM or more and a screaming fast, current SSD desktop? It's not "OMG how did it get so cheap" but it sounds like a good deal to me, overall.

          The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...

          But don't get me wrong, I love Intel Nuc, I think my next desktop computer at home will be a Nuc.

          The reason I would got with Intel Nuc is its size. I would not plan on expanding anything even if it does come with PCI-E lanes. If graphic cards, sound cards, and other modular components come into play I would get Corsair Compact Case with an ATX motherboard instead. It might cost about the same base price as Intel NUC, but Intel NUC appeals me most with its compact size.
          Bottom line question would be what do you plan to use Intel NUC for?

          I like the Bitfenix prodigy's too

          I've got one of those... was going to make a NAS from it but now it just sits there... I may try and make a steam box or some kind of emulator. The processor leaves a bit to be desired though.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said:

            @wirestyle22 said:

            @LAH3385 said:

            @iroal said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @iroal said:

            Yes, you need to add memory and a SSD, in same models you can add and Msata SSD and a 2.5" Harddisk simultaneously

            So if the base is $380, a decent SSD is $100 and memory is $70 (which is REALLY high) we are looking at $550 for a recent, very fast Intel i5 processor, 32GB of RAM or more and a screaming fast, current SSD desktop? It's not "OMG how did it get so cheap" but it sounds like a good deal to me, overall.

            The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...

            But don't get me wrong, I love Intel Nuc, I think my next desktop computer at home will be a Nuc.

            The reason I would got with Intel Nuc is its size. I would not plan on expanding anything even if it does come with PCI-E lanes. If graphic cards, sound cards, and other modular components come into play I would get Corsair Compact Case with an ATX motherboard instead. It might cost about the same base price as Intel NUC, but Intel NUC appeals me most with its compact size.
            Bottom line question would be what do you plan to use Intel NUC for?

            I like the Bitfenix prodigy's too

            I've got one of those... was going to make a NAS from it but now it just sits there... I may try and make a steam box or some kind of emulator. The processor leaves a bit to be desired though.

            It's almost perfect for a NAS. Ton of Bays. I built a gaming PC for my ex girlfriend that was a blue prodigy. The small form factor was wanted. Could've been smaller but I liked the case and she did too.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!

              prodigy

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Can that fit a full size GPU?

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!

                  prodigy

                  This is a better case for a NAS 😄 I do like the Prodigy, but yes it leaves some stuff to be desired
                  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112339

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Can that fit a full size GPU?

                    If you remove some of the HD cages yes

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!

                      prodigy

                      if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Can that fit a full size GPU?

                        Yes, with room to spare.

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          By almost perfect... how do you handle the hot swap? Not very good for a NAS without hot swap. Look great, though!!

                          prodigy

                          if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?

                          I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @coliver
                            last edited by

                            @coliver said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Can that fit a full size GPU?

                            Yes, with room to spare.

                            Nice. Thanks.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.

                              I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @coliver said:

                                I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.

                                I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?

                                Oh, agreed it would be a pain, although the side does come off easily. I was responding to @Dashrender about not having hotswap with software RAID.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @coliver said:

                                  I'm pretty sure you can do hotswap/hotplug with MD-RAID.

                                  I'm not asking about software but about the chassis. How do you pull the drives out without drive trays?

                                  Oh, agreed it would be a pain, although the side does come off easily. I was responding to @Dashrender about not having hotswap with software RAID.

                                  Oh, yes the software has hot swap, no issue there. But you need a hot swap chassis or else you damage the equipment!

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?

                                    All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      if you're using software RAID - you wouldn't have hot swap, so does it matter in the case of a case/setup like this?

                                      All enterprise software RAID has hot swap.

                                      What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?

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                                      • gjacobseG
                                        gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @iroal said:

                                        The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...

                                        I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.

                                        This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.

                                        The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          What other types of enterprise software RAID is there?

                                          Oh sure. FakeRAID for example. And some cheesy stuff from third parties.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
                                            last edited by

                                            @gjacobse said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @iroal said:

                                            The problem are the expansions, you cannot add any PCI Express so you cannot change the Graphic card, sound card, add Sata drivers...

                                            I agree that that is a limitation, but is it a problem? Considering you would look at these as business desktops or lab servers, I would never be adding GPUs or sound cards to those. Well almost never, GPUs once in a great while. I get that it only has Intel GPU on board and those are total garbage, but for a business desktop normally fine. But as business machines, I don't think that those limitations are real and any business desktop of this form factor will have the same limitations so that is a form factor problem, not a NUC one per se.

                                            This is part of my issue. for a project I am wanting to do running a VM is fine,.. but to have all of it on one monitor could make the video so small that it's impossible to see.

                                            The project: a NOC monitor - To monitor my network and a few others.. I'm not looking to run a Datacenter out of the house,.. just something roughly simple.

                                            If you just need more monitors and not heavy GPU processing, can't you just use the USB-C output?

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