ASUS gets their butt handed to them by the feds
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Dashrender I wonder if the same account you're mentioning would still be effective with an OS like DD-WRT on these units....
Also what models have you seen that Cox has control over? What kind of access do they have, what are they able to do? If they have access to the modem, what would stop them from accessing the router behind the modem?
Cox has access to all cable modems attached to their network, regardless of vendor. What vendors have I seen? I've seen Netgear all in ones, Motorola and Toshiba.
Of course the ISP (Cox) will have outside access to the router you install behind the cable modem, but hopefully your router/firewall device will stop them cold - just like it stops hackers getting into your network.
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@NattNatt said:
@Dashrender said:
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@johnhooks said:
I don't use Comcast equipment. I bought my own modem for like $70 and use that. Theirs sucked and you had to pay extra or some nonsense for bridging.
I'm not sure about Comcast - but with Cox use theirs, use yours, doesn't matter, they have full control over the device. You give them a serial number, and there must be carrier level default username and passwords on it because Cox is who manages the thing.
I would personally never use a cable modem/ADSL all in one router device. I just don't want the ISP inside my private network.
So you'd recommend a separate router and modem at home too? Any recommendations other than the Unify stuff mentioned above (not sure how expensive/easy to get hold of they are in the UK?
As a techie - absolutely I recommend them to be separate. For normal consumers who don't care - nah, they don't care so why should I?
but would it work if I got a modem and simply put that direct behind the All-in-one thing the company sent?
I presume it would but not done much networking stuff on this level...Not a modem - a modem is what the ISP provides - you install a router/firewall behind the all-in-one thing the ISP provides.
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@Dashrender said:
@NattNatt said:
@Dashrender said:
@NattNatt said:
@Dashrender said:
@johnhooks said:
I don't use Comcast equipment. I bought my own modem for like $70 and use that. Theirs sucked and you had to pay extra or some nonsense for bridging.
I'm not sure about Comcast - but with Cox use theirs, use yours, doesn't matter, they have full control over the device. You give them a serial number, and there must be carrier level default username and passwords on it because Cox is who manages the thing.
I would personally never use a cable modem/ADSL all in one router device. I just don't want the ISP inside my private network.
So you'd recommend a separate router and modem at home too? Any recommendations other than the Unify stuff mentioned above (not sure how expensive/easy to get hold of they are in the UK?
As a techie - absolutely I recommend them to be separate. For normal consumers who don't care - nah, they don't care so why should I?
but would it work if I got a modem and simply put that direct behind the All-in-one thing the company sent?
I presume it would but not done much networking stuff on this level...Not a modem - a modem is what the ISP provides - you install a router/firewall behind the all-in-one thing the ISP provides.
That's what I meant...Natt with no sleep or caffeine is a silly Natt....my bad
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@DustinB3403 said:
@Dashrender That seems insane that every Modem/ Router provider would be creating a custom account that the ISP could use to access a personally owned device..
And (from the UK point of view) certainly a legal grey area at best...
Is there a law saying you can't do this? or a TOS with the ISP that doesn't allow it? Wouldn't that same TOS prevent you from using a firewall on your computer itself?
I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...
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I have a 27" ISP panel. It's not as nice as my LG or my Benq but it is still pretty decent.
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@coliver said:
I think we need someone with experience to weigh in on how this works. From my knowledge they use a DHCP-esque system and do MAC reservations to set addresses. @PSX_Defector may have some inside knowledge though. Certainly TWC hasn't, at least to my knowledge, logged into the modem to set it up. They get the MAC address then plug it into the network.
That is correct - don't know about the MAC reservations part, but the rest is what I understand as well - but they, the ISP, can definitely get into the cable modem and tweak it to work better on their network. When you call for support, they can log into your modem and see it's link state, etc between your device (hopefully a router you control) and the cable modem.
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@NattNatt said:
I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...
That's cause to release the Purple shirted eye stabber upon them IMO
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Agh I lied. I have an Acer monitor. I don't know what I was thinking.
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@johnhooks said:
I have an Acer.
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@nadnerB said:
@NattNatt said:
I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...
That's cause to release the Purple shirted eye stabber upon them IMO
Hah :') You backed the game on kickstarter..?
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@nadnerB said:
@johnhooks said:
Agh I lied. I have an Acer. I don't know what I was thinking.
It's actually kind of nice. It's this one
http://www.game-debate.com/monitor/mon_pic.php?mon_id=986&monitor=ACER S235HLbii 23inch
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@NattNatt said:
@nadnerB said:
@NattNatt said:
I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...
That's cause to release the Purple shirted eye stabber upon them IMO
Hah :') You backed the game on kickstarter..?
Nope. Looks hilarious though.
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@NattNatt said:
I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...
I'd have to guess that in the US, the companies put that into the TOS that they manage the cable modem, I would expect little difference for the UK.
Heck, the government is allowed to audit the number of TVs you have in your house in the UK - talk about weird!
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@johnhooks said:
@nadnerB said:
@johnhooks said:
Agh I lied. I have an Acer. I don't know what I was thinking.
It's actually kind of nice. It's this one
http://www.game-debate.com/monitor/mon_pic.php?mon_id=986&monitor=ACER S235HLbii 23inch
That's the second weirdest monitor I've ever seen
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@nadnerB said:
@NattNatt said:
@nadnerB said:
@NattNatt said:
I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...
That's cause to release the Purple shirted eye stabber upon them IMO
Hah :') You backed the game on kickstarter..?
Nope. Looks hilarious though.
I took a punt on this one, missed out on CAH, Exploding Kittens AND Secret Hitler...so thought I'd actually give this a shot lol...
@Dashrender said:
@NattNatt said:
I meant the ISP forcing an account on a privately owned piece of kit would be a grey area if not illegal...
I'd have to guess that in the US, the companies put that into the TOS that they manage the cable modem, I would expect little difference for the UK.
Heck, the government is allowed to audit the number of TVs you have in your house in the UK - talk about weird!
Hmmm, I'll have to look into it, but I'd be surprised if they'd be allowed to remotely manage a personal piece of kit in the UK unless they had a warrant etc...
Huh? The TV's..?
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@Dashrender said:
I want a standing desk.
rather, I want a convertible desk.I'll have a convertible. Car or desk. I'm not fussy
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@NattNatt said:
Huh? The TV's..?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom
You have to pay a tax based on the number of TVs in your house. They can audit you at will if they don't think you're being legit about it.
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@Dashrender said:
@NattNatt said:
Huh? The TV's..?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licensing_in_the_United_Kingdom
You have to pay a tax based on the number of TVs in your house. They can audit you at will if they don't think you're being legit about it.
Not per number, just IF you have a TV and they Prove you use it to watch live TV (i.e. if it's just hooked up to a console, with no antenna it doesn't count) then you pay a set fee a year...
