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    • brianlittlejohnB
      brianlittlejohn
      last edited by brianlittlejohn

      Yep, every card is different.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @brianlittlejohn
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        @brianlittlejohn said:

        Yep, every card is different.

        What about if the H310 died and I was replacing it with another H310. Would that be plug and plug, or still test and see?

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco @BRRABill
          last edited by

          @BRRABill the fact that it's RAID1 makes this simpler, so even if the card fails to recognize the old config, you still have backups and can create a new array.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            It's always a craps shoot when you are messing with arrays. Sure it's suppose to read the config from the drives and ask to import, but who knows. When the card died, whose to say it didn't take the config on the drive out?

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            • brianlittlejohnB
              brianlittlejohn @BRRABill
              last edited by

              I came across this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTx3hzYWg1E

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Should work fine. The controllers are designed to migrate the configuration in this way.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @brianlittlejohn
                  last edited by

                  @brianlittlejohn said:

                  I came across this...

                  Catchy music!

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Should work fine. The controllers are designed to migrate the configuration in this way.

                    OK, for giggles I will give it a try and see what happens.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      Worked with no issues. Not even a beep.

                      Now, I assuming if I had gone with a non-DELL controller, there would have been issues? Or can all cards read the same info on the disk? Is it a standard?

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by BRRABill

                        One "small" issue I had. (And this might lead to some nice hard drive speed discussion.)

                        I have 2 7200RPM SATYA drvies in there in a RAID1 array.

                        On the H310, I ended up with the following speed results:


                        CrystalDiskMark 5.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2015 hiyohiyo
                        Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

                        • MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]

                        • KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

                          Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 184.891 MB/s
                          Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 128.441 MB/s
                          Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 2.441 MB/s [ 595.9 IOPS]
                          Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1.474 MB/s [ 359.9 IOPS]
                          Sequential Read (T= 1) : 132.327 MB/s
                          Sequential Write (T= 1) : 127.913 MB/s
                          Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 0.620 MB/s [ 151.4 IOPS]
                          Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 1.227 MB/s [ 299.6 IOPS]

                          Test : 1024 MiB [C: 11.4% (13.4/116.8 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
                          Date : 2016/01/05 17:59:43
                          OS : Windows Server 2012 R2 [6.3 Build 9600] (x64)

                        When I put the H710 and re-tested, I got the following results:


                        CrystalDiskMark 5.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2015 hiyohiyo
                        Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/

                        • MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]

                        • KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

                          Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 126.263 MB/s
                          Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 130.756 MB/s
                          Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1.459 MB/s [ 356.2 IOPS]
                          Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1.514 MB/s [ 369.6 IOPS]
                          Sequential Read (T= 1) : 116.618 MB/s
                          Sequential Write (T= 1) : 130.008 MB/s
                          Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 0.491 MB/s [ 119.9 IOPS]
                          Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 1.285 MB/s [ 313.7 IOPS]

                          Test : 1024 MiB [C: 43.7% (51.1/116.8 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
                          Date : 2016/01/07 14:45:47
                          OS : Windows Server 2012 R2 [6.3 Build 9600] (x64)

                        QUESTION1: What would a normal speed be for these drives? Is this in the expected range?

                        QUESTION 2: Does the 184 seem like a fluke here?

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said:

                          Worked with no issues. Not even a beep.

                          Now, I assuming if I had gone with a non-DELL controller, there would have been issues? Or can all cards read the same info on the disk? Is it a standard?

                          I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @travisdh1
                            last edited by

                            @travisdh1 said:

                            I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

                            Yes this surely would go into the "don't try at home" category, I think.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said:

                              @travisdh1 said:

                              I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

                              Yes this surely would go into the "don't try at home" category, I think.

                              For sure.

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said:

                                @travisdh1 said:

                                I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

                                Yes this surely would go into the "don't try at home work" category, I think.

                                Fixed it for you.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                  last edited by

                                  @dafyre said:

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  @travisdh1 said:

                                  I haven't heard of anyone actually trying this, but Dell just uses re-branded LSI controllers. Don't know how much firmware customization they've done, but I'd bet the drives could be moved between Dell and LSI controller cards.

                                  Yes this surely would go into the "don't try at home work" category, I think.

                                  Fixed it for you.

                                  I was about to say... more like "only" try this at home.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    Oddly enough, when I do the same test on the same drives, on the "E" partition (which is located on the same RAID array as the "C" partition), I get the following results:

                                    Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 109.597 MB/s
                                    Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 104.111 MB/s
                                    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1.924 MB/s [ 469.7 IOPS]
                                    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 1.498 MB/s [ 365.7 IOPS]
                                    Sequential Read (T= 1) : 106.960 MB/s
                                    Sequential Write (T= 1) : 105.491 MB/s
                                    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 0.661 MB/s [ 161.4 IOPS]
                                    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 1.243 MB/s [ 303.5 IOPS]

                                    Test : 1024 MiB [E: 52.6% (183.0/348.1 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
                                    Date : 2016/01/07 15:51:24
                                    OS : Windows Server 2012 R2 [6.3 Build 9600] (x64)

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      Interesting tidbit you may or may not know. (I am sure you do.)

                                      While the H310 DOES support single drives non-RAID), the H710 does NOT. You can use a single drive by creating a single member RAID0 array.

                                      Not that you wouldn't always use RAID in a server. Just thought that was interesting.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said:

                                        Interesting tidbit you may or may not know. (I am sure you do.)

                                        While the H310 DOES support single drives non-RAID), the H710 does NOT. You can use a single drive by creating a single member RAID0 array.

                                        Not that you wouldn't always use RAID in a server. Just thought that was interesting.

                                        Good to know with my predilection for software raid, in that specific usage case an H310 will be just fine should I need another HBA.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @travisdh1
                                          last edited by

                                          @travisdh1 said:

                                          Good to know with my predilection for software raid, in that specific usage case an H310 will be just fine should I need another HBA.

                                          After being a member here at ML, I have sworn off the H310.

                                          Going to sell mine on eBay rapido!

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said:

                                            Interesting tidbit you may or may not know. (I am sure you do.)

                                            While the H310 DOES support single drives non-RAID), the H710 does NOT. You can use a single drive by creating a single member RAID0 array.

                                            Not that you wouldn't always use RAID in a server. Just thought that was interesting.

                                            That's actually standard.

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