Outlook .pst folder redirection possible?
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What is slower about OWA than local Outlook?
Does the user use Outlook plugins? If yes, that would prevent you from moving to OWA.
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@Dashrender said:
What is slower about OWA than local Outlook?
Nothing that I've found. It's always faster in my own use cases. Even in startup, somehow!
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@Dashrender said:
What is slower about OWA than local Outlook?
Does the user use Outlook plugins? If yes, that would prevent you from moving to OWA.
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
What is slower about OWA than local Outlook?
Nothing that I've found. It's always faster in my own use cases. Even in startup, somehow!
They just.. don't like OWA.
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@LAH3385 yeah I keep hearing that.
What version of Outlook are they on? If we're talking about people who last saw OWA in the 2007 days, maybe even the 2010 days, I can understand where they are coming from, OWA 2010 was very usable, and 2013 is pretty much Outlook in a browser.
I'd ask them to take a look again and let them know about the freedoms it grants them (use from any computer - all data available from anywhere, etc).
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At my last employer, we did store the PST files in the End-User's Redirected Documents folder. To my knowledge, we never had any Outlook issues that were caused by that.
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@LAH3385 said:
They just.. don't like OWA.
At some point you have to decide what to present and not to present as options. If what they want doesn't meet their needs, take it off of the table.
Present it to management with the costs, limitations, issues, etc. Don't hold back, let them back the decision. If things corrupt, hold them accountable.
Let people move person by person. Those with OWA can mock their Luddite brethren until more switch out of embarrassment.
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@dafyre said:
At my last employer, we did store the PST files in the End-User's Redirected Documents folder. To my knowledge, we never had any Outlook issues that were caused by that.
If they are small, the network is fast and the NAS never disconnects, it often works.
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@Dashrender said:
This is not recommended by MS at all. Putting a PST on a network share invites corruption and performance issues.
If this is a concern for you, you should look at running a backup job to backup the PST from time to time.
I want Folder Redirection to act as a backup where Offline file is the original and Network drive is the copy. I don't think that is how it works.
@Dashrender said:
@LAH3385 yeah I keep hearing that.
What version of Outlook are they on? If we're talking about people who last saw OWA in the 2007 days, maybe even the 2010 days, I can understand where they are coming from, OWA 2010 was very usable, and 2013 is pretty much Outlook in a browser.
I'd ask them to take a look again and let them know about the freedoms it grants them (use from any computer - all data available from anywhere, etc).
We are on 2010. I have the latest OWA with Outlook.com and it looks gorgeous.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@LAH3385 said:
They just.. don't like OWA.
At some point you have to decide what to present and not to present as options. If what they want doesn't meet their needs, take it off of the table.
Present it to management with the costs, limitations, issues, etc. Don't hold back, let them back the decision. If things corrupt, hold them accountable.
Let people move person by person. Those with OWA can mock their Luddite brethren until more switch out of embarrassment.
Do you have to manually point to Outlook file to Document or is there a general setting something I can tweak with?
@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
At my last employer, we did store the PST files in the End-User's Redirected Documents folder. To my knowledge, we never had any Outlook issues that were caused by that.
If they are small, the network is fast and the NAS never disconnects, it often works.
We are <100 users. Out network is 1Gb. We do not experience issue that often.
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@LAH3385 said:
@Dashrender said:
We are on 2010. I have the latest OWA with Outlook.com and it looks gorgeous.
It's great, I've been on it for four or five years now. So much nicer for me than traditional Outlook.
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@LAH3385 said:
If they are small, the network is fast and the NAS never disconnects, it often works.
We are <100 users. Out network is 1Gb. We do not experience issue that often.
Number of users and network bandwidth are rarely the issues. It's disk speed, user behaviour and system reliability that affect you.
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We set FSRM to block .PST and .OST files.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
At my last employer, we did store the PST files in the End-User's Redirected Documents folder. To my knowledge, we never had any Outlook issues that were caused by that.
If they are small, the network is fast and the NAS never disconnects, it often works.
We were ~250 users, most of them were redirected to a home folder on the SAN. The network was 1gig, and we did have problems, but by and large, the Exchange bits and the Home Folder bits were reliable.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
At my last employer, we did store the PST files in the End-User's Redirected Documents folder. To my knowledge, we never had any Outlook issues that were caused by that.
If they are small, the network is fast and the NAS never disconnects, it often works.
We were ~250 users, most of them were redirected to a home folder on the SAN. The network was 1gig, and we did have problems, but by and large, the Exchange bits and the Home Folder bits were reliable.
Home folders on a SAN? We've seen people do this with smaller Drobo units but it's awkward. You have a LUN per user and iSCSI on the desktop? I've worked in a few places doing this but never on any scale (like a dozen users tops and very special user cases.)
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
At my last employer, we did store the PST files in the End-User's Redirected Documents folder. To my knowledge, we never had any Outlook issues that were caused by that.
If they are small, the network is fast and the NAS never disconnects, it often works.
We were ~250 users, most of them were redirected to a home folder on the SAN. The network was 1gig, and we did have problems, but by and large, the Exchange bits and the Home Folder bits were reliable.
Home folders on a SAN? We've seen people do this with smaller Drobo units but it's awkward. You have a LUN per user and iSCSI on the desktop? I've worked in a few places doing this but never on any scale (like a dozen users tops and very special user cases.)
Why would you go to thinking that they would have a LUN per user and ISCSI? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to think that the SAN is shared through a Windows Server, and that a share is made available for the home drive?
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@Dashrender said:
Why would you go to thinking that they would have a LUN per user and ISCSI? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to think that the SAN is shared through a Windows Server, and that a share is made available for the home drive?
Because you would never say that you were storing something on a SAN if you were storing it on a file server. That would be no different than saying "we store stuff on disks." Why would you say you were storing to a SAN if you were storing to a NAS or FS that in turn might be storing on a SAN?
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iSCSI only because I really assumed that there were not wiring up Fibre Channel or similar to each desktop.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Why would you go to thinking that they would have a LUN per user and ISCSI? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to think that the SAN is shared through a Windows Server, and that a share is made available for the home drive?
Because you would never say that you were storing something on a SAN if you were storing it on a file server. That would be no different than saying "we store stuff on disks." Why would you say you were storing to a SAN if you were storing to a NAS or FS that in turn might be storing on a SAN?
Maybe I'm the odd thinker (non-thinker) here - but when he said that they stored everything on a SAN, a fileserver with SAN storage is exactly what I thought he meant... it never crossed my mind that the workstations where connected directly in some way to the SAN.
