Billboard on the interstate
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@brianlittlejohn said:
That's great it's reminding you of your purpose, but should that be done by threatening (real or perceived) the people you are trying to reach.
That is why I don't always agree with the billboards that are out and about. Threatening people to follow Christ is no different than ISIS threatening people to follow Radical Islam.
Perception is in the eye of the beholder. I don't find those billboards offensive, but I can guarantee you there are folks who do.
The ISIS folks don't see themselves as evil... but the rest of the world does.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
@Dashrender Personally, I prefer the phrase "Prepare to meet your maker" ... but that's just picking nits.
But I live like I expect to meet my maker today. It keeps life... interesting.
But keeps you from investing too
Exactly. If you're only living for today, how will you take care of tomorrow.
Though I'm sure that's not entirely what you meant.
Being prepared to die today is not the same as "let's drink and be merry, for tomorrow may never come". It's living life in such a way as to be ready for tomorrow, but not taking for granted that it will happen for yourself, and being ready for what comes if today is your last. That includes your own spirituality and also taking care of your family for the future.
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I don't care what religion you practice, if at all.
You all suck, and everyone will die sooner or later.
Lets leave it at that.
Thanks
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@art_of_shred said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@dafyre said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
I am religious, and these bill boards bug the hell out of me. They are threatening and accomplish absolutely no purpose.
I am a Christian. I can definitely imagine they bug folks who are athiests or non-Christians as well. But for me, they are reminders of what my purpose is on this earth.
(Aside from exorcising computers).That's great it's reminding you of your purpose, but should that be done by threatening (real or perceived) the people you are trying to reach.
If your family was in a burning building, and you were the only one aware of the fire, what methods of warning them would you consider "too extreme"? Whether or not you agree with these people's views, understand the urgency, whether perceived or real.
Who hold on... you're comparing our lives to a burning building? That seems extreme!
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@Dashrender said:
Who hold on... you're comparing our lives to a burning building? That seems extreme!
Only a little... a fire feeds, grows, and eventually dies... just like a human. Some fires burn hotter and longer than others... some humans live longer than others.
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@dafyre said:
The ISIS folks don't see themselves as evil... but the rest of the world does.
I'm not sure that that is true.
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North GA is full of this BS as well... these billboards are offensive and often ruin what could have been a lovely view of the mountains.
"Religion is like a penis... it's fine to have one, it's ok to be proud of it, but you should NEVER wave it around in public or shove it down anyone's throat."
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@Dashrender said:
@art_of_shred said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@dafyre said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
I am religious, and these bill boards bug the hell out of me. They are threatening and accomplish absolutely no purpose.
I am a Christian. I can definitely imagine they bug folks who are athiests or non-Christians as well. But for me, they are reminders of what my purpose is on this earth.
(Aside from exorcising computers).That's great it's reminding you of your purpose, but should that be done by threatening (real or perceived) the people you are trying to reach.
If your family was in a burning building, and you were the only one aware of the fire, what methods of warning them would you consider "too extreme"? Whether or not you agree with these people's views, understand the urgency, whether perceived or real.
Who hold on... you're comparing our lives to a burning building? That seems extreme!
Unless you think you're making it out of here alive, this life will consume you and you will die. If you (as the people who are bringing you these "threatening" messages) believe in such things as heaven and hell, well, not going to hell might be like getting saved from a fire.
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@art_of_shred the issue I have with the burning building comparison is the immediate need to make a decision about a situation you know the outcome of if you fail to act.
i.e. you're in a burning building, if you don't get out, you're going to die NOW.
Life it's like that. You have no idea when you're going to die. You could get hit by a buss tomorrow, or you could live issue free for the next 60 years.. you just don't know.
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@Dashrender said:
@art_of_shred the issue I have with the burning building comparison is the immediate need to make a decision about a situation you know the outcome of if you fail to act.
i.e. you're in a burning building, if you don't get out, you're going to die NOW.
Life it's like that. You have no idea when you're going to die. You could get hit by a buss tomorrow, or you could live issue free for the next 60 years.. you just don't know.
Agreed, but the pivotal point is that it could be immediate, and once you're there, your options have ceased. The fact that you could choke on the next sip of water you take and die, means that if death came suddenly, you don't have time to re-think your position. Once you're gone, you can't call a Mulligan.
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@art_of_shred said:
@Dashrender said:
@art_of_shred said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@dafyre said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
I am religious, and these bill boards bug the hell out of me. They are threatening and accomplish absolutely no purpose.
I am a Christian. I can definitely imagine they bug folks who are athiests or non-Christians as well. But for me, they are reminders of what my purpose is on this earth.
(Aside from exorcising computers).That's great it's reminding you of your purpose, but should that be done by threatening (real or perceived) the people you are trying to reach.
If your family was in a burning building, and you were the only one aware of the fire, what methods of warning them would you consider "too extreme"? Whether or not you agree with these people's views, understand the urgency, whether perceived or real.
Who hold on... you're comparing our lives to a burning building? That seems extreme!
Unless you think you're making it out of here alive, this life will consume you and you will die. If you (as the people who are bringing you these "threatening" messages) believe in such things as heaven and hell, well, not going to hell might be like getting saved from a fire.
So, if my family is in a burning building, I should get a billboard on the interstate and tell them about it? These billboards are a waste of time and an eye sore. I can't imagine anyone reading that and changing anything about themselves.
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@RojoLoco said:
"Religion is like a penis... it's fine to have one, it's ok to be proud of it, but you should NEVER wave it around in public or shove it down anyone's throat."
I think this is a bad analogy, lol. Doesn't mean it ain't true though.
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@s.hackleman said:
@art_of_shred said:
@Dashrender said:
@art_of_shred said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
@dafyre said:
@brianlittlejohn said:
I am religious, and these bill boards bug the hell out of me. They are threatening and accomplish absolutely no purpose.
I am a Christian. I can definitely imagine they bug folks who are athiests or non-Christians as well. But for me, they are reminders of what my purpose is on this earth.
(Aside from exorcising computers).That's great it's reminding you of your purpose, but should that be done by threatening (real or perceived) the people you are trying to reach.
If your family was in a burning building, and you were the only one aware of the fire, what methods of warning them would you consider "too extreme"? Whether or not you agree with these people's views, understand the urgency, whether perceived or real.
Who hold on... you're comparing our lives to a burning building? That seems extreme!
Unless you think you're making it out of here alive, this life will consume you and you will die. If you (as the people who are bringing you these "threatening" messages) believe in such things as heaven and hell, well, not going to hell might be like getting saved from a fire.
So, if my family is in a burning building, I should get a billboard on the interstate and tell them about it? These billboards are a waste of time and an eye sore. I can't imagine anyone reading that and changing anything about themselves.
I think the idea is that every single life is precious. If your message reaches one single person, what is the value of that? If life is priceless, that's a lot of value.
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@art_of_shred said:
@Dashrender said:
@art_of_shred the issue I have with the burning building comparison is the immediate need to make a decision about a situation you know the outcome of if you fail to act.
i.e. you're in a burning building, if you don't get out, you're going to die NOW.
Life it's like that. You have no idea when you're going to die. You could get hit by a buss tomorrow, or you could live issue free for the next 60 years.. you just don't know.
Agreed, but the pivotal point is that it could be immediate, and once you're there, your options have ceased. The fact that you could choke on the next sip of water you take and die, means that if death came suddenly, you don't have time to re-think your position. Once you're gone, you can't call a Mulligan.
Chances are I will choke on the next sip of water... and the one after that.... and....
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dammit, literally choked on coffee while writing that. I kid you not.
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@art_of_shred said:
I think the idea is that every single life is precious. If your message reaches one single person, what is the value of that? If life is priceless, that's a lot of value.
If it reaches one, minus how many it turns away. Just like we said in the other thread about Portal, ads can have negative consequences. You have to weigh the good and the bad, not ignore the bad and only look at the positive portions.
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@scottalanmiller said:
dammit, literally choked on coffee while writing that. I kid you not.
I think Darwin is winning....
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@scottalanmiller said:
dammit, literally choked on coffee while writing that. I kid you not.
If you don't make it can you update this post and let us know who is up there so we can settle this needless debate down here.
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@scottalanmiller said:
dammit, literally choked on coffee while writing that. I kid you not.
...and so you understand the precarious nature of life and death...
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I suppose considering @art_of_shred point of view, these billboards are like the government providing social security - well maybe not exactly, but close.
Someone has some money and decide to spend it to try to remind people... today could be your last day on earth.. did you spend it wisely? did you prepare a disaster plan to take care of your family, etc?
To that end, OK fine - but I find the use of religion offensive to this end. The message itself has nothing to do with religion and more to do with personal morals.
The idea of preparing for death financially is also a first world problem.
