Network Administrator I- Discussion
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 All, because it is the job postings board. It is not in a discussion forum. 
 Keep your opinions out of the post.@scottalanmiller I have no personal skin in this. I stayed out of this until it got so bad the OP contemplated deleting the thread. I only chimed in because at that point you all continued to spew forth unrelated information to the OP's job posting. 
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 @JaredBusch said: Fair point, took the discussion here: http://mangolassi.it/topic/5179/how-should-the-job-postings-section-function 
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 This topic has been moved to IT Careers. This is a more appropriate space for this discussion. 
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 That's more appropriate for the discussion that followed, but not really appropriate for the OP. 
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 Oh I agree that for the OP it's not the best place. But for the discussion that follwed it is. 
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 Can we change the title to "Network Administrator 1 - Discussion" and have @IRJ repost the OP in the appropriate section? 
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 Done. 
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 It reads like they want the sun, moon and starts and are willing to pay peanuts  
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 They want the starts for sure.  
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 @scottalanmiller (!^&!^(#&^%!(*%@) curse of the last name heh 
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 @MattSpeller said: It reads like they want the sun, moon and starts and are willing to pay peanuts  The pay is actually really high for the area. I challenge you to search the Orlando area for jobs. If you spent 20 minutes or so looking on career builder for a similar position, I doubt you would find one in the same pay range. Most would be quite a bit less 
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 @IRJ oh, I'm sure it's probably quite good! Just commenting on how it was written 
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 @IRJ said: @MattSpeller said: It reads like they want the sun, moon and starts and are willing to pay peanuts  The pay is actually really high for the area. I challenge you to search the Orlando area for jobs. If you spent 20 minutes or so looking on career builder for a similar position, I doubt you would find one in the same pay range. Most would be quite a bit less I've actually been offered way more in Orlando  But... Orlando.  LOL But... Orlando.  LOLBut you are right, Orlando is a terrible market and that pay range seems quite reasonable. 
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 At least Orlando is a very low cost of living and no state income tax. At least I think the cost of living is low. That's what I have heard. 
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 @scottalanmiller said: I've actually been offered way more in Orlando  We don't wanna hear about your indecent proposal at Disney. A gang bang with Minnie and Pluto? Shame on you! 
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 @IRJ said: @MattSpeller said: It reads like they want the sun, moon and starts and are willing to pay peanuts  The pay is actually really high for the area. I challenge you to search the Orlando area for jobs. If you spent 20 minutes or so looking on career builder for a similar position, I doubt you would find one in the same pay range. Most would be quite a bit less It's much higher than this area. I used to get offered System Administrator roles for under $30k all the time, when my last job was over $10k more. Now that I'm actually looking for a job those don't even come up lol. 
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 I am seeing in the market take a dive for pay rates in the more rural areas these days. There is an MSP in Rochester that is paying their Engineering people $15/hour. Their helpdesk get $9/hour. They also only charge customers around $75/hour though so what can you expect? 
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 Well, I know a few of the places I interviewed for have outsource those jobs overseas instead of hiring. It seems to be a trend. Most of them were Linux Admins, System Admins or network Admins. Apparently they can hire firms over there to do it much cheaper and then just pay an inexperienced techs $9 for desktops/hardware stuff. Seems dumb, especially at the thousands of employees level. 
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 @thecreativeone91 said: Well, I know a few of the places I interviewed for have outsource those jobs overseas instead of hiring. It seems to be a trend. Most of them were Linux Admins, System Admins or network Admins. Apparently they can hire firms over there to do it much cheaper and then just pay an inexperienced techs $9 for desktops/hardware stuff. Seems dumb, especially at the thousands of employees level. That's the standard offshoring model. Companies have been doing it for forever. SMB customers have a tendency to not care about quality, only price, so offshoring makes you almost unbeatable. I was offshore support for Europe for much of my career. 







