Solved Email server options
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That's not to say that ITSPs that aren't VARs never recommend it. We do recommend O365 from time to time, but it's just one of many solutions. Are up to 400% the cost of Zoho, which is arguable a nicer platform anyway, it can be hard to justify. We have customers who want enterprise, hosted email, but are moving off of the O365/GSuite family because it just doesn't make sense for them.
As the cost of hosting has come down, the email providers aren't lowering cost (not the big two, anyway) making them priced more and more out of the market.
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Just updated my mailcow server to the latest version
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So the client is sticking with Microsoft, because their other systems are also Microsoft.
Here are the final numbers, unless someone freaks, they will be going with Office 365 Exchange Online Plan 1.
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@JaredBusch said in Email server options:
So the client is sticking with Microsoft, because their other systems are also Microsoft.
Here are the final numbers, unless someone freaks, they will be going with Office 365 Exchange Online Plan 1.
WTF do they want both O365 and onprem exchange? Just glanced quick, but seems they could cut the cost by 80%.
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@Obsolesce it's a cost comparison, he isn't having both, from what I can see?
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@StuartJordan said in Email server options:
@Obsolesce it's a cost comparison, he isn't having both, from what I can see?
Yah I realized that later and wrote it in the telegram group.
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@Obsolesce said in Email server options:
@StuartJordan said in Email server options:
@Obsolesce it's a cost comparison, he isn't having both, from what I can see?
Yah I realized that later and wrote it in the telegram group.
The comparison is interesting though.
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This comparison misses taking it beyond year 5.
If you add SA to the original licenses - because you know the plan is the keep using Exchange going forward - it will raise the costs noticeably in the beginning, but come renewal time it will make it significantly less. Less enough to be under O365? not likely, hell, even the 5 year plan would be more expensive for onprem vs O365... but it might lower itself over time because of the SA difference.
Of course, non of this takes into account hardware costs (included in O365- though could be arguably negligible if a server platform still has to exist onsite) HVAC costs (included in O365 - though could be arguably negligible if a server platform still has to exist onsite), UPS costs (included in O365 - though could be arguably negligible if a server platform still has to exist onsite) HA costs - likely don't exist because licensing would be much higher.
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@Dashrender said in Email server options:
This comparison misses taking it beyond year 5.
Why take it beyond 5 years? Because if it is on premises, it will need to be upgraded again.
@Dashrender said in Email server options:
If you add SA to the original licenses - because you know the plan is the keep using Exchange going forward - it will raise the costs noticeably in the beginning, but come renewal time it will make it significantly less. Less enough to be under O365? not likely, hell, even the 5 year plan would be more expensive for onprem vs O365... but it might lower itself over time because of the SA difference.
SA is a scam to get more money. Always has been for the SMB. With negotiated pricing for Enterprise, it is the right thing.
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@JaredBusch said in Email server options:
@Dashrender said in Email server options:
This comparison misses taking it beyond year 5.
Why take it beyond 5 years? Because if it is on premises, it will need to be upgraded again.
@Dashrender said in Email server options:
If you add SA to the original licenses - because you know the plan is the keep using Exchange going forward - it will raise the costs noticeably in the beginning, but come renewal time it will make it significantly less. Less enough to be under O365? not likely, hell, even the 5 year plan would be more expensive for onprem vs O365... but it might lower itself over time because of the SA difference.
SA is a scam to get more money. Always has been for the SMB. With negotiated pricing for Enterprise, it is the right thing.
If you're a company that only upgrades once every 10 years - then yeah... SA is a waste of money, but you're already talking about upgrading again in 5 years, so SA could very much make financial sense - show me the numbers before you poo poo it.
