MDM for 20 iPads?
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@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
OMG - $8.25/device/month - man - how can they justify these prices... this just seems insane!
JAMF Pro is $7.17. Same ballpark.
All these prices just seem outrageous. Look at what you get for O365 for $5/u/m, look at what you get from Netflix for $10/m/family...
When Zix is $5/u/m I was like - WTF? it's just a "secure" webportal that sends out an email that a message is sitting on this web server - why is that so fraking expensive? hell, Zix themselves barely need much of an infrastructure, because the clients all have to have a Zix server on their own networks in front of their email servers....
The value just seems scewed to me... of course my opinion doesn't matter one iota,
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@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
All these prices just seem outrageous. Look at what you get for O365 for $5/u/m, look at what you get from Netflix for $10/m/family...
In terms of Mac management, you get zero from Netflix or O365. So getting nothing for all that money, compared to getting what you need makes more sense. I have no idea how you are trying to draw a comparison between an email service, a movie service, and an EMM in pricing. They are unrelated.
That's like complaining about the cost of a car wash and saying it cost more than a hamburger. Sure, it might, but there is no relationship so the comparison is meaningless.
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@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
When Zix is $5/u/m I was like - WTF? it's just a "secure" webportal that sends out an email that a message is sitting on this web server - why is that so fraking expensive?
Simple question? Do you pay for it? Then it's good value to the person who decided that. So that's why it costs that much. Cost is set by the buyer, not the seller. The seller determines what someone must pay, the buyer determines what someone does pay. If something seems expensive, that's always incorrect if they have customers.
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@Kelly said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
https://support.apple.com/business
DEP is your starting point if they haven't changed things in the last year or so.
Good luck getting this going. Takes at least a week to 10 days to get verified.
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@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
OMG - $8.25/device/month - man - how can they justify these prices... this just seems insane!
JAMF Pro is $7.17. Same ballpark.
All these prices just seem outrageous.
Compare to Office 365 Intune...
Base price is $6, E3 is $8.74, and E5 is $14.80.
So compared to Microsoft's these prices are pretty cheap with free instead of $6 and $8.25 instead of either of the more expensive options.
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@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
OMG - $8.25/device/month - man - how can they justify these prices... this just seems insane!
JAMF Pro is $7.17. Same ballpark.
All these prices just seem outrageous.
Compare to Office 365 Intune...
Base price is $6, E3 is $8.74, and E5 is $14.80.
So compared to Microsoft's these prices are pretty cheap with free instead of $6 and $8.25 instead of either of the more expensive options.
Yeah, intune has been disqualified for me. Mostly, due to price.
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@wrx7m said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
OMG - $8.25/device/month - man - how can they justify these prices... this just seems insane!
JAMF Pro is $7.17. Same ballpark.
All these prices just seem outrageous.
Compare to Office 365 Intune...
Base price is $6, E3 is $8.74, and E5 is $14.80.
So compared to Microsoft's these prices are pretty cheap with free instead of $6 and $8.25 instead of either of the more expensive options.
Yeah, intune has been disqualified for me. Mostly, due to price.
It's crazy expensive.
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@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@wrx7m said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
OMG - $8.25/device/month - man - how can they justify these prices... this just seems insane!
JAMF Pro is $7.17. Same ballpark.
All these prices just seem outrageous.
Compare to Office 365 Intune...
Base price is $6, E3 is $8.74, and E5 is $14.80.
So compared to Microsoft's these prices are pretty cheap with free instead of $6 and $8.25 instead of either of the more expensive options.
Yeah, intune has been disqualified for me. Mostly, due to price.
It's crazy expensive.
I haven't looked - what does it cost these days? With inTune - it's the replacement for AV you've been paying for - so that brings a lot of capital to use from that. If you weren't using AV, then that's different.
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@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@wrx7m said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
OMG - $8.25/device/month - man - how can they justify these prices... this just seems insane!
JAMF Pro is $7.17. Same ballpark.
All these prices just seem outrageous.
Compare to Office 365 Intune...
Base price is $6, E3 is $8.74, and E5 is $14.80.
So compared to Microsoft's these prices are pretty cheap with free instead of $6 and $8.25 instead of either of the more expensive options.
Yeah, intune has been disqualified for me. Mostly, due to price.
It's crazy expensive.
I haven't looked - what does it cost these days? With inTune - it's the replacement for AV you've been paying for - so that brings a lot of capital to use from that. If you weren't using AV, then that's different.
AV is free on Windows, though. So the value approaches zero.
InTune ranges from $6 to almost $15.
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@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@wrx7m said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
OMG - $8.25/device/month - man - how can they justify these prices... this just seems insane!
JAMF Pro is $7.17. Same ballpark.
All these prices just seem outrageous.
Compare to Office 365 Intune...
Base price is $6, E3 is $8.74, and E5 is $14.80.
So compared to Microsoft's these prices are pretty cheap with free instead of $6 and $8.25 instead of either of the more expensive options.
Yeah, intune has been disqualified for me. Mostly, due to price.
It's crazy expensive.
I haven't looked - what does it cost these days? With inTune - it's the replacement for AV you've been paying for - so that brings a lot of capital to use from that. If you weren't using AV, then that's different.
AV is free on Windows, though. So the value approaches zero.
InTune ranges from $6 to almost $15.
Not managed AV - though - I wonder - can you get reports on AV status from salt? or some other thing like it?
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@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@wrx7m said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@scottalanmiller said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Dashrender said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
OMG - $8.25/device/month - man - how can they justify these prices... this just seems insane!
JAMF Pro is $7.17. Same ballpark.
All these prices just seem outrageous.
Compare to Office 365 Intune...
Base price is $6, E3 is $8.74, and E5 is $14.80.
So compared to Microsoft's these prices are pretty cheap with free instead of $6 and $8.25 instead of either of the more expensive options.
Yeah, intune has been disqualified for me. Mostly, due to price.
It's crazy expensive.
I haven't looked - what does it cost these days? With inTune - it's the replacement for AV you've been paying for - so that brings a lot of capital to use from that. If you weren't using AV, then that's different.
AV is free on Windows, though. So the value approaches zero.
InTune ranges from $6 to almost $15.
Not managed AV - though - I wonder - can you get reports on AV status from salt? or some other thing like it?
Sure, there have been tools over the years that did that with free AV products. PowerShell should be able to do it, too.
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Thanks for all the replies people, there are few options there for me to look at, which I will do.
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@wrx7m said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
@Kelly said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
https://support.apple.com/business
DEP is your starting point if they haven't changed things in the last year or so.
Good luck getting this going. Takes at least a week to 10 days to get verified.
Yep. This is one of my biggest probs. I visit these places for 3-5 hours a week and if I'm not there to get the phone call, then no one knows what's going on, regardless of how many times you tell them.
I've looked into setting up VPP accounts, but you can wait for a week for a call from Apple USA and if the call is taken by someone who doesn't know what is going on, you have to arrange for another call.
A 15 minute job could take 3 weeks to complete.
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@siringo said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
I've looked into setting up VPP accounts, but you can wait for a week for a call from Apple USA and if the call is taken by someone who doesn't know what is going on, you have to arrange for another call.
Could you just use your personal cell phone as the initial contact number?
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I can vouch for Jamf and intune.
but have you looked at APPLE DEP ?
depends on what you need to do but I found that the free DEP offering usually covers what you need and if you work with a channel partner they usually can pre-register the units for you in DEP program so you dont have worry about setup each unit when you get them.
Let me know if you ned more info on DEP, JAMF or Intune please.
I can help. -
@siringo
I have Apple engineers that can help if you need. -
@ysapir said in MDM for 20 iPads?:
I can vouch for Jamf and intune.
but have you looked at APPLE DEP ?
depends on what you need to do but I found that the free DEP offering usually covers what you need and if you work with a channel partner they usually can pre-register the units for you in DEP program so you dont have worry about setup each unit when you get them.
Let me know if you ned more info on DEP, JAMF or Intune please.
I can help.Thanks very much or the kind offer.
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I've used this in the past. Works well, and much cheaper than $8.
