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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @TonyKnobel
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      @tonyknobel said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

      @dustinb3403 He would need a bigger desk :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

      a 1/4 rack could easily fit under it. . . .

      I guess @WrCombs do you want a tower type server or a standard server?

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @EddieJennings
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        @eddiejennings said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

        My server came from STI. Experience was good, but the next time I'll look for some better pricing. Xbyte is also good for servers and parts.

        Xbyte is great, but you simply can't beat a good Dell Refurbished server with a decent coupon code... Xbyte can't touch that.

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        • WrCombsW
          WrCombs @DustinB3403
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          @dustinb3403 said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

          @tonyknobel said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

          @dustinb3403 He would need a bigger desk :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

          a 1/4 rack could easily fit under it. . . .

          I guess @WrCombs do you want a tower type server or a standard server?

          I guess either one would work.. a tower type would probably fit pretty well, but so would a standard guess it leaves it up to price.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @Obsolesce
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            @obsolesce said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

            @eddiejennings said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

            My server came from STI. Experience was good, but the next time I'll look for some better pricing. Xbyte is also good for servers and parts.

            Xbyte is great, but you simply can't beat a good Dell Refurbished server with a decent coupon code... Xbyte can't touch that.

            The last server we got was this:

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            And, it came with a surprise two Solarflare 10g NICs, plus the risers. THe processor ours came with was an E5-2667 v2 @ 3.3 GHz 25M cache, better than the on above. All for $1841 to our door.

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              bnrstnr
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              Don't forget about how loud your server might be. If it's going on your desk it might make it a little uncomfortable.

              It's also fun to shove the server in your basement or someplace that isn't as easily accessible so you can get that little extra remoting experience lol

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              • WrCombsW
                WrCombs @bnrstnr
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                @bnrstnr said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                Don't forget about how loud your server might be. If it's going on your desk it might make it a little uncomfortable.

                It's also fun to shove the server in your basement or someplace that isn't as easily accessible so you can get that little extra remoting experience lol

                Thats a good Idea. Thanks!

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                  @wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                  @bnrstnr said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                  Don't forget about how loud your server might be. If it's going on your desk it might make it a little uncomfortable.

                  It's also fun to shove the server in your basement or someplace that isn't as easily accessible so you can get that little extra remoting experience lol

                  Thats a good Idea. Thanks!

                  For that approach though, you should just rent a server from Colocation America.

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                  • TonyKnobelT
                    TonyKnobel @WrCombs
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                    @wrcombs Since no one has asked yet -- what are you going to run on it? Hypervisor?

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                    • WrCombsW
                      WrCombs @TonyKnobel
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                      @tonyknobel said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                      @wrcombs Since no one has asked yet -- what are you going to run on it? Hypervisor?

                      What do you suggest?
                      Never done anything like this.

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                      • jmooreJ
                        jmoore
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                        yeah hypervisor then various vm's within it for learning experience.

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                        • WrCombsW
                          WrCombs @jmoore
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                          @jmoore said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                          yeah hypervisor then various vm's within it for learning experience.

                          I have some (very little) experience with Vms using oracle Virtual Box. Most of that was because when i first started with ML i had to use a family computer and used Virtual Box to run my own OS and Store all of my info, then i got a my laptop and have been using it ever since. ( were talking 3 years ago ish)

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                            @dustinb3403 said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                            @wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                            @bnrstnr said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                            Don't forget about how loud your server might be. If it's going on your desk it might make it a little uncomfortable.

                            It's also fun to shove the server in your basement or someplace that isn't as easily accessible so you can get that little extra remoting experience lol

                            Thats a good Idea. Thanks!

                            For that approach though, you should just rent a server from Colocation America.

                            I looked into Vultr a little bit, I just wanted a local hardware, So i can do everything right there.

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                            • Emad RE
                              Emad R @WrCombs
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                              @wrcombs

                              Ryzen 7 1700 and disable SMT so you get 8/8 threads.

                              Good AM4 mobo with M2 Storage + 8 SATA ports

                              And thats it you can do alot starting from this, with alot of research you can enable ECC support on Ryzen 7 and on certain mobos

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                              • jmooreJ
                                jmoore @WrCombs
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                                @wrcombs I'm no expert but for a learning experience like you want I think you would want to use hyper-v or kvm for your hypervisor. Whichever you choose, do both windows and linux stuff if you don't want to specialize yet. I recently went down this road too.

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                                • WrCombsW
                                  WrCombs @jmoore
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                                  @jmoore said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                                  .... kvm for your hypervisor. Whichever you choose, do both windows and linux stuff if you don't want to specialize yet.

                                  Im not ready for that kind of commitment 😉

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                                  • jmooreJ
                                    jmoore @WrCombs
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                                    @wrcombs lol

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                                      @wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                                      Thinking about building my own server, strictly for home use, backups and external storage (if i sound like an idiot, bear with me.)
                                      What would everyone recommend ?

                                      Whats a good place to start?

                                      I want to try new things and expand as much as possible in IT.

                                      Thanks.

                                      Edit I want to be able to manage a server for my house just to use the experience.

                                      So think about what experience you want....

                                      Do you want "real server experience" so that you can tell a potential employer about it? Then you want that experience to be on a real server like Dell PowerEdge or HPE Proliant.

                                      Do you want to learn "how server parts are chosen" then parting something out and building it yourself might make more sense, but will cost a lot more.

                                      Do you just want it to fulfill some roles in your home, then buying a nice consumer NAS is cheaper and quieter.

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                                      • WrCombsW
                                        WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                                        @wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                                        Thinking about building my own server, strictly for home use, backups and external storage (if i sound like an idiot, bear with me.)
                                        What would everyone recommend ?

                                        Whats a good place to start?

                                        I want to try new things and expand as much as possible in IT.

                                        Thanks.

                                        Edit I want to be able to manage a server for my house just to use the experience.

                                        So think about what experience you want....

                                        Do you want "real server experience" so that you can tell a potential employer about it? Then you want that experience to be on a real server like Dell PowerEdge or HPE Proliant.

                                        Main goal is to be able to tell an employer about what I did on my own at home just to learn it.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @WrCombs
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                                          @wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                                          @wrcombs said in First Time Server Buy . . . Build. . .:

                                          Thinking about building my own server, strictly for home use, backups and external storage (if i sound like an idiot, bear with me.)
                                          What would everyone recommend ?

                                          Whats a good place to start?

                                          I want to try new things and expand as much as possible in IT.

                                          Thanks.

                                          Edit I want to be able to manage a server for my house just to use the experience.

                                          So think about what experience you want....

                                          Do you want "real server experience" so that you can tell a potential employer about it? Then you want that experience to be on a real server like Dell PowerEdge or HPE Proliant.

                                          Main goal is to be able to tell an employer about what I did on my own at home just to learn it.

                                          Then what you do at home has to be relevant to or the same as the work you'll be doing for the job you're applying for.

                                          Use a real server, set up the same environment you'll find in an SMB or Enterprise.

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                                          • BradfromxByteB
                                            BradfromxByte @Obsolesce
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                                            @obsolesce, pricing seems anecdotal at best. Specs don't match and no time frame was mentioned. Bring me any future deals. As long as we have it, we usually win.

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