Getting straight to work
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@black3dynamite said in Getting straight to work:
@scottalanmiller said in Getting straight to work:
@black3dynamite said in Getting straight to work:
@scottalanmiller said in Getting straight to work:
@jaredbusch said in Getting straight to work:
@dashrender said in Getting straight to work:
The auto reload is helpful to a point.
Unfortunately, apparently something she does frequently is change spreadsheets to tweak results, though has no intention of saving those changes... well the auto save kicked in, saved the changes because pc reboot/server reboot, etc - now she doesn't know the state of the truly saved file versus the auto saved file, etc.. headache.
Now I know some of you are just going to say - well stop that. To which I reply - she's the bloody boss, and no matter what Scott says, she still gets to make the rules.
Then stop fucking caring.
Tell her that you don't give a shit if she doens't. Because she surely doesn't, and to stop bitching to you about it.
Exactly. Tell her what is possible, do what you are told, don't care beyond that. She can't have auto save and don't auto save too. The computer isn't magic, and stating that it has to be isn't a "rule".
I'm curious if something like iPad Pro would make sense for users like that?
Or, you know, paper.
That's funny. I said something like that years ago to a co-worker and he gave me stink eye.
LOL, sometimes it's just the right answer.
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The thing about paper is that it is predictable. People understand it intuitively. They don't get confused when it doesn't back itself up, or doesn't revert to an earlier revision or whatever.
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I suppose she never updates her computer or reboots either, then. Pretty bad practice.
If she can't remember what she was working on, it must not be important.
A simple task list can help with that.
I used to use a good ol'fashioned Memogenda, but have since started using Outlook tasks to track everything.
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@obsolesce said in Getting straight to work:
If she can't remember what she was working on, it must not be important.
A simple task list can help with that.Not that it isn't important, but sometimes people juggle a thousand things. Outlook tasks is pretty helpful for me in this regard, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Getting straight to work:
The thing about paper is that it is predictable. People understand it intuitively. They don't get confused when it doesn't back itself up, or doesn't revert to an earlier revision or whatever.
Oh, she told us that she tried using a tasks in Outlook, and other tasking solutions - but they were just to long - the list was always hundreds or more lines long... that was untennable to her.
She prints and makes piles of paper. Apparently piles of papers with tasks to do is less mentally tasking than seeing a list in tasks that 300 lines long. Even though the piles of paper total up to that same list of 300 lines.
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@Dashrender then you should look for better task management solutions.
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@dustinb3403 said in Getting straight to work:
@Dashrender then you should look for better task management solutions.
uh - isn't that what this thread is about?
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@dashrender said in Getting straight to work:
@dustinb3403 said in Getting straight to work:
@Dashrender then you should look for better task management solutions.
uh - isn't that what this thread is about?
It seems more about your bemoaning your bosses bad habits.
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@dustinb3403 said in Getting straight to work:
@dashrender said in Getting straight to work:
@dustinb3403 said in Getting straight to work:
@Dashrender then you should look for better task management solutions.
uh - isn't that what this thread is about?
It seems more about your bemoaning your bosses bad habits.
LOL - And you're just a ball of sunshine today too.
I'm not bemoaning anything - I'm looking for solutions to present - if you don't want to work toward this end - then piss off.
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@dashrender said in Getting straight to work:
@dustinb3403 said in Getting straight to work:
@dashrender said in Getting straight to work:
@dustinb3403 said in Getting straight to work:
@Dashrender then you should look for better task management solutions.
uh - isn't that what this thread is about?
It seems more about your bemoaning your bosses bad habits.
LOL - And you're just a ball of sunshine today too.
I'm not bemoaning anything - I'm looking for solutions to present - if you don't want to work toward this end - then piss off.
I already told you what to say. Not my fault that you don't want to.
You cannot fix stupid. Stop trying.
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Do you not do system maintenance? I mean aren't your windows PCs at least rebooting weekly? Do package deployments and updates happen at night?
What I'd say is really simple. Save your shit, because maintenance happens at night and systems will often reboot
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So think of it like this, Google Drive auto-saves the work, solution provided and issue solved.
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@krisleslie said in Getting straight to work:
So think of it like this, Google Drive auto-saves the work, solution provided and issue solved.
Auto-saving is part of the problem. She doesn't want auto-saving, she has that now.
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Then it's a personal problem, not the individual working the systems. It's a shame public humiliation isn't an option haha joking guys.
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@scottalanmiller said in Getting straight to work:
@krisleslie said in Getting straight to work:
So think of it like this, Google Drive auto-saves the work, solution provided and issue solved.
Auto-saving is part of the problem. She doesn't want auto-saving, she has that now.
Well - auto saving in Excel is not the same as live saving in Google Docs. With Excel - the auto save in this case is a crash recovery option that pops up asking the user - do you want to recover what you didn't purposefully save before the system shutdown? and there is now way to view the differences between what's saved on the disk, vs what's being recovered from the temp file before making the decision.
Yes - the answer to all of these problems is - shut everything down before you leave. PERIOD.
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@krisleslie said in Getting straight to work:
Then it's a personal problem, not the individual working the systems. It's a shame public humiliation isn't an option haha joking guys.
I've worked places where it wasn't just an option, but a requirement. I'm dead serious.
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@dashrender said in Getting straight to work:
@scottalanmiller said in Getting straight to work:
@krisleslie said in Getting straight to work:
So think of it like this, Google Drive auto-saves the work, solution provided and issue solved.
Auto-saving is part of the problem. She doesn't want auto-saving, she has that now.
Well - auto saving in Excel is not the same as live saving in Google Docs. With Excel - the auto save in this case is a crash recovery option that pops up asking the user - do you want to recover what you didn't purposefully save before the system shutdown? and there is now way to view the differences between what's saved on the disk, vs what's being recovered from the temp file before making the decision.
Would that difference make the difference? There are ways to get behaviour like that in Excel with Excel Online.
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Well a better question is what is she doing in a spreadsheet that she shouldn't already be doing in a database? Makes little to no sense, she becomes a "SILO".
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@krisleslie said in Getting straight to work:
Well a better question is what is she doing in a spreadsheet that she shouldn't already be doing in a database? Makes little to no sense, she becomes a "SILO".
Running reports is extremely time consuming in our EHR. Then once the report is run, it's saved to a CSV. Then she uses the CSV to get the data she wants - and saves them for future lookups. I'm pretty sure this is extremely common.
Now - can the DB be made to give the exact thing she wants? possibly, for $1000's for custom reports - and they will still take ages to run compared to just doing it herself with the CSV.
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The problem isn't Excel - it's that she's not closing her stuff, then the system goes offline.
We are hashing a dead horse here obviously - If you don't have anything to say other than - She just needs to close everything - then please just don't bother responding.
I already know that!
